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Tanks

Thanks for giving me his welcome. You were very kind. Augusto Antonio (talk) 14:29, 17 August 2010 (CEST)

Are you atheist???

Here is quote: [1] "The atheist Jimmy Wales was a lead founder of Wikipedia. Please feel free to contact the atheist Jimmy Wales"... If you are atheists, then I stop editing wikipedia from today as I undertand its goals opposing God. However if you are not atheist - then I may have some hope for theistic wikipedia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.132.239.216 (talk) 17:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jimbo. If you are wondering what the hell this is all about, the best route into this unedifying spectacle is Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Hare Krishna. Basically this guy thinks we have a grudge against his religion because his POV and poor quality content is up for deletion. I would like to make him understand that there is no grudge and that good quality writing on religious subjects is very welcome but I don't think I am getting through. --DanielRigal (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While I agree that the IP's comment was rude and uncalled for, and Jimbo's religion is irrelevant as far as Wikipedia's goals are concerned (to create the most comprehensive encyclopedia of knowledge ever created); I must however point out that bad English, poor grammar, and not following our procedure's when in good faith trying to contribute does not make someone's contributions unneeded nor unwanted. Please work with contributors who dont live up to your "standards", poor quality can be fixed and is not a reason to dismiss contributions made in good faith. POV is another issue, and yet we have plenty of POV-pushers who end up in the long run making contributions (though I would never call them good) that are kept around. Perhaps a mentor is in order if this IP wishes to truly help the encyclopedia.Camelbinky (talk) 19:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The nerve of some people to not believe without evidence in an invisible BFF in the sky. Unbelievable! - WAS 4.250 (talk) 20:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coatrack, meet closet: Disgruntled IP. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why Jimbo being atheist or not has anything to do with the encyclopedia as a whole. His religion doesn't affect the running of the encyclopedia, unlike Conservapedia (E=liberal plot to encourage godless relativism!) Sceptre (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citing a page as a basis for your argument that calls itself "trustworthy" and fails to provide any sources for its claims is generally not a good source to take your arguments from. ;-) Regards SoWhy 17:08, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, after reading that link to the Conservapedia page regarding what we "got wrong" here on Wikipedia "because of our liberal bias" I am... on the floor laughing! I never knew that conservative right-wing Christians do not believe in gravity! Even Wiley Coyote believed in gravity once he looked down! Oh, wait... he was an inventor and scientist in a way, so he was probably liberal... if he had been conservative he could have kept walking off that cliff and caught the Roadrunner! (who was probably a Muslim terrorist anyways!) Well, that page has simply strengthened my belief that liberals and Democrats need to have a stronger backbone and fight back stronger and more aggressively because seriously a Republican with those views should never win an election EVER. (And in the city I'm from Albany, New York, Republicans routinely come in third and have not won any election in over 50 years whether for mayor, alderman from any ward, treasurer, etc). So it's proof that Republicans CAN be stopped!)Camelbinky (talk) 18:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not all Republicans are like that, you know. Just saying is all. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 23:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
True, there are still Rockefeller Republicans like Arlen Specter and Michael Bloomberg... oh wait not anymore... well there's... well, damn, I guess you have Arnold Schwarzenegger and George Pataki and Rudy Guiliani, how's that working for them in their popularity among the national organization when they dont sell their souls and lose their integrity like John McCain? I agree when it comes to regular registered Republicans and Conservatives there are plenty who are reasonable and intelligent and believe in the scientific method. However, the party since Ronald Reagan has been hijacked by the religious right on a national scale, but whereas RR had his one commandment "thou shall not attack another Republican", now-a-days if you are not right wing you are not only NOT a Republican, you are not patriotic either, to which Dick Cheney played dumb about breaking RR's commandment by attacking Colin Powell with the comment- "I was not aware he was still a Republican". But I am getting very soap-boxy, I would love to have a real discussion about national and local politics ("all politics is local"- Tip O'Neil) and if you wish to discuss this seriously we can go to a sandbox off my user page and continue what I consider an interesting topic.Camelbinky (talk) 00:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, I'd prefer not to. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 08:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, don't judge us all by the Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh wing. The social libertarians aren't that bad. Soxwon (talk) 23:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is why I hate politics....--White Shadows Your guess is as good as mine 00:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hear hear. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 08:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is infinitely more preferable here is that it should not be possible to determine an editor's politics or beliefs by the edits they make; that is the whole point of neutrality, although sadly some editors will use whatever platform is available to them, including this encyclopedia, to pursue their own agenda. I hesitate to suggest that such editors should be shot, poisoned, or otherwise eliminated, but those of us who merely wish to provide the facts tend to get sidetracked by these people, and that is entirely without the cheap and utterly unnecessary vandalism that is a daily bane to those with better things to do. Although we allow unregistered editing, it is in my opinion increasingly an invitation to edit irresponsibly as Wikipedia's popularity and influence arguably increases. Rodhullandemu 00:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Camelbinky, stop! Now! Guys, Don't feed the trolls, especially not on this page. And the anon above has already been blocked. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 00:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, watch your tone and dont act like that again. You are being uncivil and dont ever act like that towards me or anyone again.Camelbinky (talk) 14:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimbo Wales is a devout member of the Wiki church. Count Iblis (talk) 23:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclopia's unexpected promotion to "spokesman" for Wikipedia by journalists of the Independent

88.106.151.183 (talk · contribs) has been promoted by Bignell and Bell to "approved Wikipedia committee member" as well. You've dealt with the press on occasion. Do you have any tips for Cyclopia and 88.106.151.183 on rectifying these reports? Uncle G (talk) 13:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • There's probably a case to be made for removing the ending. But really the "approved Wikipedia committee member" is talking real bollocks when it says "the revelation of the ending breaches an oral contract between the actors and the audience. Such is the fame of the secrecy that an audience member cannot reasonably attend without knowing their role to play in guarding it, and thus an oral contract, implied in fact, has taken place." One does not need a lawyer to smell the distinct odour of BS. If that's our approved spokesman, all I can say is "bring back David Gerard".--Scott Mac 14:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • David Gerard just commented at the Daily Telegraph"s piece on this. Uncle G (talk) 17:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a frivolous news story, sloppily written. Ignore it. 86.150.119.135 (talk) 16:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no personal interest in correcting the report. But I think WP has a strong interest in not being publicized as having me ,or any other random humble editor, as a spokesman. --Cyclopiatalk 18:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Basically, if you don't want full information on something, you probably shouldn't look in an encyclopedia" (Gerard). Priceless. Geometry guy 18:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "We burnt all 45,000 spoiler templates, laughing with glee as we brutally murdered them," (Gerard) not so priceless symbolism. Off2riorob (talk) 14:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cyclopia's promotion to Wikipedia "spokesman" by Bignell and Bell, whom they say was "asked what the site's policy is", is echoing around the world, now. No mention of David Gerard in any piece, yet, despite his suggestion that this "is surely Press Complaints Commission material" at The Independent. Uncle G (talk) 15:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yep. It was on the major Italian newspaper today, too. Given the fame, I'd like at least a picture with Jimbo Wales to show to my friends! --Cyclopiatalk 15:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Now seriously: Shouldn't WP contact someone to point that editors in talk pages are not "spokespeople" of WP? --Cyclopiatalk 15:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well in a sense we all are spokesmen for the Wikipedia; that this joint functions somewhere between direct democracy and functional anarchy, no one is above or below any other. Now if the writers were claiming you were a spokesman for the WMF itself, that's a different matter. Tarc (talk) 15:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Technically I agree a lot, yet I doubt that's the impression people receive by reading such news articles. An IP editor was called an "approved committee member", which is plain nonsense. --Cyclopiatalk 16:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No mention, either, of the 1990 encyclopaedia that revealed who the murderer was in its The Mousetrap article. Ironically, anyone wanting to know what the encyclopaedia is need only go to our The Mousetrap article, where it is cited. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 15:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Erik Hayden, of The Altantic Wire, explicitly reports Cyclopia as having been interviewed by The Independent. Still no mention of David Gerard, or the 1990 encyclopaedia. Uncle G (talk) 17:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, all of which reminds me: Snape killed Dum......oopse!--Scott Mac 16:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[[2]] The bog turtle article featured on 8/30 main page was the result of a high school biology project. I just thought you might appreciate that the Wiki-project has found its way into public education at the secondary level in such a positive way. The project is here:Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2009. We should have the 2010 attempt up and running soon. Thank you for sharing your vision.--JimmyButler (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]