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Removal of Template:Mathematicians by century
Hi Mayumashu. I was wondering why you removed {{Mathematicians by century}} from Category:11th-century mathematicians (your edit) and Category:20th-century mathematicians (your edit) (and maybe some others?). Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 02:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Speedy renaming nominations with objections
Just a courtesy reminder: three of your speedy nominations from April have objections and, therefore, can't be handled via the speedy process. The three are: Category:Latino civil rights activists, Category:French Quebecers and Category:Quebecers of French descent. I don't know if you changed your mind about the renames or if you still think they should be renamed, so... Cheers, -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
AN/I re Roseleena Blair
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- Hi Mayumashu, I assume you'll see this at the ANI thread above, or the article, but to make sure: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Alabama in Huntsville varsity tennis team Playboy controversy. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
How did Hungarian-Austrian Jews land up descending from "Hungarians"
Hi Mayumashu: I was directed to you by this discussion at User talk:Cyde#How did Hungarian-Austrian Jews land up descending from "Hungarians". Please reverse this "Category:Hungarian-Austrian Jews to Category:Austrian Jewish people of Hungarian descent C2C..." change you made see here. The reasons are that I am looking at this page Category:Austrian Jewish people of Hungarian descent and it is downright wrong. It was previously named Category:Hungarian-Austrian Jews (meaning Jews from post World War ONE Hungary that had at one time been closer to Austria-Hungary) which is accurate, meaning a Jew with a very specific Jewish Hungarian-Austrian heritage, while the new name is not accurate because it implies that the main heritage is primarily "Austrian" (which they are mostly not) but of "Hungarian descent" meaning it could be not-Jewish, which is ridiculous for this category. They are both Hungarian and Austrian but not of either descent. "Hungarian" and "Austrian" should not have been split in this case. It gets confusing I know, but the category was fine as it was. All I can see are the references here, but I never saw any notification for this discussion at the key Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism or at least at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism where it should have been posted for Judaic editors to be notified. I hope this will NOT be a trend now to come up with changes that will screw up Category:Austro-Hungarian Jews; Category:Austrian-American Jews. Please revert it back or I will file an appropriate WP:DRV, which should not even be necessary. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 02:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Category:People of Hungarian descent are people of Hungarian ethnic or national descent - the parent category is Category:People by ethnic or national descent. Hyphenated names have been replaced with those using 'by decent' for clarity and I cannot see how the original name for this category was better, as listed on this page are, indeed, Austrian Jews of Hungarian 'national (and/or ethnic) descent'. The term 'national descent' is a bit contrived, but it so would be any terminology for those whose parents or 'foreparents' came from a country but did not have that country ethnicity (as is the case here). The trouble with hyphenated names for categories of this sort is that the meaning of such names can easily be seen to mean a few different things - is the intention of 'Hungarian-Austrian Jew' a dual citizen of the two countries who is Jewish, a citizen of Hungary who is Jewish with Austrian origins, or a citizen (or permanent resident) of Austria who is Jewish with Hungarian origins? I do think that the category should be renamed to Category:Austrian Jews of Hungarian descent as Jewish people was reverted to Category:Jews, but I do/would not support a revert of this page, as (well as) I understand its purpose. Mayumashu (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Same for Category:American Jews of Czech descent
Category:American Jews of Czech descent should be Category:Czech-American Jews because they are of Jewish descent not of Czech-Jewish (or Jewish-Czech) descent and not of only Czech descent. This was not a well-thought out move and it's a mistake that needs to be corrected. IZAK (talk) 02:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
This is all a mess now, who did it?
Category:American Jews by national origin has caused havoc and needs to be reversed. All the categories that state "...of ____ descent" and then a country is put at the end of each one creates the mistaken conception that those Jews were descended from non-Jewish nationalities that is totally false. I see that a bigger discussion will have to be opened about this, this type of move needed broader discussion and input from many more experienced Judaic editors who have a better handle on this subject matter. Please stop making your "speedy" nominations and changes in categories of Jews while this horrendous mess is sorted out! IZAK (talk) 02:37, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Deletion review for American Jews/Jewish people by fooian descent
An editor has asked for a deletion review see Categories:American Jews/Jewish people by fooian descent. Because you evidently closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. IZAK (talk) 06:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)