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== December 2017 ==
== December 2017 ==
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== 1RR ==

You have once again violated 1RR changing American to Domestic. You did this also when you changed another heading to "Local Churches" - these are not improvements, and this is a second revert, please self-revert.[[User:Seraphim System|<span style="font-family:Candara; color:#cc00cc; text-shadow:#b3b3cc 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">'''Seraphim System'''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Seraphim System|<span style="color:#009900">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:07, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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Got it, thanks! geodis removed. --Wiking (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Either you are ignoring facts or you are a hard core Zionist, or both. In both cases, you are clearly biased. The movement Kahane has founded (Kach)is considered a terrorist organization by the US and by ISRAEL itself. He is considered a terrorist because he was promoting hate and violence speech and urging to kill or transfer Arabs. I hope you read a little bit before editing and commenting here. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 14:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, actually I did not attack you, unless you consider Zionist as an insult. I don't understand why you keep threatening me, when you are not even an administrator. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it seems I will not convince you and you will not convince me, and your vandalism accusations against me were overruled. Let's agree on some common ground. The guy and his groups were outlawed by US and Israeli authorities, and this is what other people here think too (e.g. User Sol). In addition, I don't understand why you keep the category "Islamist terrorism in the US" in this article, as nobody was convicted in his assassination, and the only suspect was not connected to al-Qaeda or anything like that (personal motives may be). عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 2010

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Meir Kahane. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Reverting obvious vandalism is NOT WP:EW. Revision history of Meir Kahane shows that I provided reasons for all reverts and requested DISCUSSION prior to further editing many times. Editor, in fact, has been warned. This diff shows that another long-time editor, whose views are opposite to mine, also believes that I was reverting obvious vandalism.

Decline reason:

Sorry, that was not vandalism; that was a content dispute. (I don't really see how you can characterize that diff from the talk page as being from a "long-time editor"; he's been editing here about ten weeks.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 22:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Jpgordon, I confused Sol Goldstone with another long-time editor, my mistake. However, how is mass-replacing "Islamic terrorism" with "Zionist terrorism" in categories content dispute rather than vandalism?? --Wiking (talk) 22:53, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I was the one putting down a block. Two things: 1) although I don't usually take into account the content of the edits, I did this time. The subject did in fact participate in some rather bloody groups, and a good faith editor could easily come to the conclusion he was a terrorist (I hold no such judgment either way myself). What does an orthodox Jewish man have to do with Islamic terrorism? With all due respect, it would seem he had as much to do with Jewish terrorism as the Islamic terrorism he was fighting. Although again, I am neutral on the content. Secondly, because it was not obvious vandalism, it doesn't qualify for 3RR avoidance (seriously, as a patrolling admin on WP:AN3, do you know how often I see this per day? And every time I've seen it, it's been a poor argument Please read WP:NOTVAND. I'm going to start an essay on this soon too). In fact I feel bad blocking you, but given that this could go either way, your reversion was not appropriate. That's why I blocked you, and I would hope you understand. In fact, given the likelihood of sockpuppetry, I feel bad about this, but sometimes I guess we all have to learn the hard way that edit warring unless it's really obvious vandalism (e.g., "penis" vandalism) will get a block. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I will shorten or remove your block if you promise not to revert that page any time until the original 24 hour block is lifted (18:01, 15 October UTC), unfair (to either side) as it may sound, mostly because I don't think it's fair that the other editor(s) can get away with disruption just because they were never formally warned, whereas you can't. That would leave you free to discuss on the talk page and request further comment. Would you agree to that? (note to other admins: feel free to perform the unblock yourself in this circumstance should I disappear for several hours) Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As it happens, I am a subject matter expert and vandalism in this case was very obvious to me. Note that Kach was designated a terrorist organization years after Kahane's assassination based on events also took place later; same with JDL (which has very little to do with the original JDL, headed by Kahane from 1968 to mid-70's); Kahane Chai didn't even exist in his life time (it means, "Kahane lives on"). Kach and Kahane Chai were banned for expressing support for terror, not even for actual involvement in terror. Meir Kahane is an article about a person, not about future designation of organizations that he may or may not have founded. Certainly this info does not belong in the intro. As it is, the article is extremely biased. Connection to Islamic terrorism, on the other hand, is clear: Kahane's assassination by an Islamic terrorist naturally places it in all relevant categories. His assassination specifically by an Islamic terrorist (not just a terrorist, not just a Muslim, but a member of an Islamic terrorist organization) is well sourced.
The article is not abandoned - there are frequent edits and ongoing discussion. Its categorization was stable and reflects concensus. Changing it at the very least requires discussion. That's why the other editor whom I mentioned (and whose views are, most likely, opposite of mine) also felt that I was reverting vandalism.
Having said all this, I do accept your offer. I do not feel that blocking me was fair, but what do I have to lose... --Wiking (talk) 02:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK I've unblocked you. I'm sorry, I think this is a content dispute. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish history

Hi Wiking: Thank you for your contributions. You recently created a number of categories relating to Jewish history that all had a similar minor spelling problem, a "H" instead of "h" for "Category:Jewish ____ history". I have nominated them for speedy changes at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming here with the request that: "The following new categories in Category:Jewish history by country need to be changed from "History" to "history" per - C2A (C2A = Renaming or merging. Typographic and spelling fixes. Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes.):

  1. Category:Jewish Afghani History to Category:Jewish Afghani history - C2A
  2. Category:Jewish Azerbaijani History to Category:Jewish Azerbaijani history - C2A
  3. Category:Jewish Dominican History to Category:Jewish Dominican history - C2A
  4. Category:Jewish Kazakh History to Category:Jewish Kazakh history - C2A
  5. Category:Jewish Maltese History to Category:Jewish Maltese history - C2A
  6. Category:Jewish Moldovan History to Category:Jewish Moldovan history - C2A"

Keep up your good work but please be more careful about following previous spelling conventions especially when creating categories because it's a hassle to get them fixed. Thank you very much! IZAK (talk) 06:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hate groups

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Why are you pruning Jewish and Zionist groups from this category? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 22:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For two different reasons. Zionism is an ideology, not a group. Specific groups (movements) are in the appropriate category; Zionism and the like should not be. Holocaust-era resistance groups simply are not National liberation movements by definition. --Wiking (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moshe Friedman

Self-proclaimed Rabbi who visited Iran, Denies the Holocaust, helps Hamas. Can you help with edits on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_friedman Tellyuer1 (talk) 18:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1RR violation

Your reverts are violations of WP:1RR. If you don't undo them, you'll end up at WP:AE. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AE report: [1]. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ackerman / Acraman

The two names are related. I didn't make it up. Here's a reference http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/34263260?selectedversion=NBD22295974

  • This source does not offer any reasoning behind this grouping, but it appears to be based on them having the same soundex or similar criteria, which does not mean that these names are related. --Wiking (talk) 00:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talkpage

I saw your revert(s) at Cave of the Patriarchs massacre. Regarding the last one, I'd recommend you to post on the talkpage as well, so that there can be no doubt why you undid that edit, and that there is a majority in favor of the undo. Debresser (talk) 15:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Stub

About this diff [2], it's pretty much irrelevant whether it's a stub or not. Like everything else, categorization must be based on reliable sourcing, and there is no source mentioned here as the topic hasn't even been addressed in the article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please see History of the Jews in Bessarabia#Rural colonies. Sure, Șipca, Șoldănești is lacking both details and sources. It does not make the categorization inaccurate though. Now, a broader question: do you think I should go ahead and add this information to a stub that consists of one line? Now these are small towns with thousands of residents, none of them Jewish and most unaware of the Jewish past of their homes. Shouldn't I wait until there is at least a paragraph about their current state of affairs as well as any notable events that took place between WWI and now? I am asking this because I've categorized another 30 or so former Jewish agricultural colonies in other governorates (in present day Ukraine) in Russian Wikipedia, with no corresponding articles in English at all. I could create them as similar stubs - just one line of the form X is a village in district Y, followed by the information about their past as Jewish agricultural colonies in the 19th century, or just add them to a category and add the information about their past to Jewish agricultural colonies in the Russian Empire for now? They were depopulated of Jews during WWI though. I don't know (nor do I care to research) much about the past 100+ years. --Wiking (talk) 15:48, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ulaniv/Ulanów

Regarding your recent edits, from the context of the source it is clear that Ulaniv in Ukraine (see Wikidata:Q335665) is intended, not Ulanów in modern Poland. Hence, please revert. As for the Yiddish transcription, I transcribed the Hebrew/Yiddish form I found in the sources (Template:Hebrew, or the like). Thank you, הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:44, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, reverted and for now Ulaniv redirects to Ulanov. Will either translate the article from Russian or (for now) just mention it in the disambiguation page. --Wiking (talk) 17:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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ARBPIA

This is a reminder that United States Recognition of Israel is an ARBPIA article, and is under 1RR restrictions. You made two reverts today:

  • [3] and [4] (no intervening edits)
  • [5] three hours later after several intervening edits.

I removed Ir Amin after the comments on talk because I felt the quote was extra and the point did not need extra emphasis, so there is no need to self-revert, but please be more careful from now on. Seraphim System (talk) 03:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Seraphim System: Please clarify which of the above are "reverts"? Are you saying that the removal of any material from the article would be considered reverting since it "undoes other editors' actions"? I always understood it literally, and not as broadly, e.g. this is a revert. And this is a second revert. Neither of them is mine though. However, I really fail to understand how this would be considered a revert, under any standard. Did you look at the article, Ir Amim? I copied a more accurate definition from its LEDE, as I mentioned in the edit summary. What exactly was it reverting? Are you now expanding the definition of revert to include removal or replacement of any statements? I am puzzled. --Wiking (talk) 04:14, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I linked to the wrong diffs but you should already know where yours are:
I am not expanding the definition, any removal counts as a revert - especially on an article that was created yesterday. If the material has been there for years, then in most cases admins will overlook it. Since you've been editing since 2009, you should also know better then to use Wikipedia as a source, and to follow MOS:LEDE when writing a LEDE. Seraphim System (talk) 04:49, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Seraphim System: but you linked to the same diffs again... I see your point about removal of statements on an article that was created yesterday counting as a revert. But this article was forked yesterday, not created. And I still can't fathom what the second removal is.
The new article needs a LEDE, no argument there, but I have not thought of a good one yet, and in the meantime I am not prohibited from improving the LEDE even if it still violates MOS, am I? I am not the one who forked it from the main article, after all.
As far as an accurate description of Ir Amim, are you saying that I was sloppy about updating it without adding a reference? Perhaps I was, since I was simultaneously asking about the deletion of that paragraph on the talk page; but please clarify - do I need to add trivial references for definitions, which are also present and referenced in the LEDE of the linked articles? In any case, that's not the same as using Wikipedia instead of RS. I guess I just don't think a definition of the subject of any article is likely to be challenged in another article, but not in the LEDE of the dedicated article, but please correct me if I'm wrong. --Wiking (talk) 05:47, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Use your judgment - you are removing some sourced language in favor of other sourced language, in this case "Israeli human rights organization" to "left wing activist organization". If you think it is trivial why changed the sourced language? Obviously you have some preference, and other editors have their preferences. I don't think there really needs to be a long disucssion about this -it's a clear revert, especially in ARBPIA, and you should be more careful in the future.Seraphim System (talk) 05:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did not realize that the description of Ir Amim itself was sourced at the time when I changed it to match the one in the dedicated article. I did see it once you pointed it out though. It was a good faith edit and not a revert, but I can see how you perceived it. In any case, thanks for removing that paragraph. It's a bit ironic that you removed it completely and yet would count my edit as a revert :) --Wiking (talk) 06:01, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
please self revert your last edit, it is not "Local Christian leaders" - this is starting to be a real problem on a 1RR article where other editors have to clean up your edits on the LEDE and now this. "Local" Christian leaders - local for who, our readers in the UK? Please self revert and slow down to make sure your future edits are constructive. Seraphim System (talk) 05:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please see my comment below yours on the article talk page. We can continue discussing the structure there. If you find the word "local" ambiguous, I have no objection to further clarifying it, but I do object to combining the reaction of Christian groups in the US and in Israel/Middle East. --Wiking (talk) 06:03, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I debated where to put it, can you just move it to the United States section instead? There is no need to break out unnecessary subsubsections. Seraphim System (talk) 06:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, Talk page would be a better place to continue. Section renamed per your objection. --Wiking (talk) 06:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I'm on mobile so I can't get to it that easily, it can't be named Patriarchates either because not all of the churches have a Patriarch. I also don't see any need to create subsubsections, within empty scaffolding. Seraphim System (talk) 06:10, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then let's find the most appropriate name on the talk page. I don't see any empty scaffolding. It makes sense to group reactions by governments and international organizations, separately the reception by the general public and various groups, including those organizing peaceful demonstrations, and separately - violent attacks. It does not make sense to mix the reactions of various government officials, private individuals and various organizations on the basis of them being in the same country. --Wiking (talk) 06:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What, now reordering is also a revert?? --Wiking (talk) 06:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes changing Palestinian to Arab is a revert. Israel calls him an Arab, many international sources call him either Arab-Palestinian or Palestinian. If you don't understand that changing Palestinian to Arab is a revert, after the editor who wrote the content already asked you to abide by 1RR, then you really should not be editing in ARBPIA. Seraphim System (talk) 06:34, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So, you reverted my reordering needlessly then? Interestingly enough, Wikipedia article Yousef Jabareen calls him Israeli Arab. No, I am not saying that it is RS, I am just wondering if, according to you, authors of that article and countless others should not be editing in ARBPIA? By the way, in Wikipedia there are no special privileges for the editor who wrote the content. --Wiking (talk) 06:49, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is obviously a revert if it was written one day ago and you revert it an hour after the editor who wrote it reminded you about DS. You know full well you are reverting my work. I will put the ordering back, but it doesn't matter much since that section is going to be expanded anyway.Seraphim System (talk) 07:11, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop reading my mind and telling me what I know full well. Generally (and in this case as well), when I improve an article, I do not look through its edit history to see who contributed the part that I am editing and when. Allow me to remind you of WP:GF. --Wiking (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Lubavitcher Rebbe on false claims of Moshiach

When did the Rebbe say outright that he was Moshiach and even if yes when was he disproven from beginning to end it should not be on the page Menachemshuch (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are references to sources in the article. If the source does not state what the article claims it does, you can mark it as such using {{Failed verification}} and someone would review it. If the source is not reliable, you can tag it with {{Unreliable source?}}. --Wiking (talk) 20:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  • A fragment of a sentence is a a COPYVIO? Ok, will rework it. --Wiking (talk) 00:37, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is a COPYVIO if the author of the original work upon seeing it would think that someone had copy and pasted their work. Yes, that is someone else's writing, not yours. If I had written it, I would recognize it if I saw it copied somewhere else. Seraphim System (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)AR[reply]

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1RR and 24 hour rule

Your last edit violates both 1RR and the 24 hour rule. Please self-revert or this goes to AE. Seraphim System (talk) 02:15, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I thought you objected to it on the grounds that it was COPYVIO, and I addressed it? Please explain, why do you object to it now? --Wiking (talk) 02:41, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If it happens again, I am going straight to AE. You have gone above 1RR for 3 days in a row. I also have to review every one of your edits to make sure you are not copying and pasting directly from the article, an issue which I have, at this point, referred to Diannaa because it is above my paygrade. Seraphim System (talk) 03:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that if an edit is reverted due to some issue (e.g. COPYVIO), and that issue is addressed, it is still considered a 1RR violation? Could you please refer me to a rule which you are interpreting this way? Thanks, still getting the hang of it. --Wiking (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK there is no revert exception for fixing reverts made under the exceptions. This is not the first time. You should at this point understand that this article is under a 1RR exception, that means only one revert in a 24 hour period, and also that there is a 24 hour rule - if an editor removes content that you had added, you have to wait 24 hours before you can restore it. Seraphim System (talk) 03:39, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't answered my question directly. If an editor removes content that I had added for a reason such as COPYVIO, and I address this issue, is it considered "restoring" it (which would be a second revert in 24 hrs)? I would think that I could never restore such content, without addressing the issue, that is - not within 24 hours, not after - but on the other hand, if the issue is addressed, there is no need to wait 24 hours? --Wiking (talk) 04:56, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Don't add anymore COPYVIOs for one, we had to revdel 200+ edits. Second, one revert means one revert. WP:3RRNO lists the only exceptions, if your reason is not covered by one of them, it is a revert. You may not be sanctioned for it but if you keep doing it (this is the 7th revert in a 72 period) I am going to bring it AE. Like everyone else who edits ARBPIA, you have to err on the side of caution. Seraphim System (talk) 05:05, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I would not restore even similar material within a 24 hour period - I have seen people try this before, like "but I changed the source" or "I added to another place in the article so I didn't really restore it" - I'm not sure what the admins will decide, they don't always impose sanctions, but I don't need all that drama in my life. There are a lot of articles to work on.Seraphim System (talk) 05:29, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the discussion here: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Removal of COPYVIO content as an exemption to WP:3RRNO. --Wiking (talk) 17:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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1RR

You have once again violated 1RR changing American to Domestic. You did this also when you changed another heading to "Local Churches" - these are not improvements, and this is a second revert, please self-revert.Seraphim System (talk) 23:07, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]