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List of people on the postage stamps of Honduras

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List of people on the postage stamps of Honduras (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Still completely unsourced and un-maintained. Still no proof that this is a notable topic per WP:SALAT. Prod contested with a WP:SOFIXIT rationale, but again, there's no proof that this can be fixed. Ping @Fram: and @Johnpacklambert: Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 15:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Honduras. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 15:03, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. This is something for another kind of project, outside of Wikipedia. BD2412 T 21:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
• Keep (This vote of course is meaningless since the decision to delete has already been made). Book indexes and Wikipedia lists are both very similar. They provide quick ways to search for information in a large "collection". No-one would ever dare to remove an index section from a non-fiction work. The work would become almost useless and impossible to search. Wikipedia lists could provide the same function. The issue of "notability" has been raised. Are lists "NOTABLE"? Probably not. Are lists "USEFUL"? Highly.

Wikipedia started in 2001. The embryo of Lists of People on Postage Stamps (LPPS) started in 2002 and has been added to sporadically over the last 20 years. Philately is a hobby so updates occurred once in a while as collectors chose to enhance the data. I chose to update Central and South America in 2013 and was doing the same in 2022. I followed the format and content developed over 20 years. I believed that it had been vetted and approved before I started my updates. Hundreds of volunteers have dedicated thousands of hours to creating and maintaining these lists. Obviously there is no point in continuing.

For some reason, this particular set of lists (LPPS) seems to have galled users Fram, Johnpacklambert, and TenPoundHammer to the point where they have initiated a complete purge of the list tree. One of them actually referred to the lists as "philatelykruft". (I assume "kruft" is Newspeak for Bovine Fecal Matter). There was no round table discussion on how to improve the articles. There was no call for volunteers to work on changes or improvements. There was no effort to make the list more "notable" (a highly vague concept). Instead a major purge has been started. Further discussion is meaningless in AfDs since the purge effort is in full swing.

Thank you to all of the stamp collectors who built the lists over the years (although you may never see my thanks!!!). I had enough notice that I was able to take copies of many of the files for my personal use. I am saddened that so much effort is being destroyed. Good bye Bill Blampied (talk) 22:43, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I posted a request to discuss this situation to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philately nearly three weeks ago, with no response whatsoever. It's an unfortunate reality of WP that a small group of determined editors can override the preferences of a larger group of more casual participants. (A couple of these lists came up for AfD years ago, and had plenty of votes to keep at the time, but most of those users are now gone I think.) Stan (talk) 02:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)