Wikipedia talk:WikiCup

First submission

Can someone check out my submissions page for my first entry and make sure I did it right, please? The toolserver url doesn't seem to be working (I'm getting a 504 Gateway Timeout) and I don't know if it's my fault or not. Also, it's an ITN submission and I didn't nominate it, but I did rewrite the blurbline and make all the updates to the relevant articles with refs. Thanks, Matthewedwards :  Chat  21:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is perfect. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:51, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks, Jivesh! :) Matthewedwards :  Chat  02:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Slightly late entry?

Any chance I could still get in? I just returned to Wikipedia after a long hiatus and saw the bot messages on my talk page. Apparently, registration just closed 2 days ago, so I thought I'd see if I could squeak in. If not, no big deal.

Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 05:48, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Go on then, I did say the middle of February, and we're slap bang in the middle now. Choose a flag, I'll do the rest. J Milburn (talk) 11:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sweet. I'll go with the Ohio flag: --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Cool, I'll sign you up when I have 10 mins to spare- hopefully later today sometime. J Milburn (talk) 08:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Done, sorry about the delay. J Milburn (talk) 16:47, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

{{WikiCup}}

Needs updating, I think? - Jarry1250 ^{[Deliberation needed]} 11:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It does, it does. I've got far less time this year, and helpful gnomes used to do some of the work! I'll hopefully get to it at some point. J Milburn (talk) 00:14, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I added a link to the 2012 Wikicup but went no further (I don't think we can add a page on Round 1 until after February 26, right?) Ruby 2010/2013 00:19, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Right. 2011 was also missing a round- somehow round 3 got skipped, so round 4 was labeled as round 3 in the template. Now fixed, both tabled and full archives. --PresN 00:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Tie

What happens in the event of a tie for the last qualifying spot(s)? Do all such competitors move on even if that means more than 64 go through? --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Participation in review processes counts as a tie-breaker. If someone's been participating in FAC, FLC, PR or the like and is tied for the last qualifying place, they will go through over someone who has not. At least, that's how we've done it in the last few years. J Milburn (talk) 09:09, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Question

Hi! If I would promote an article I promoted to GA in Round 1 to GA in the same round- - Would I lose points for the GA promotion, or would I keep both points for the GA and FA promotion? --Khanassassin ☪ 16:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

You'd get points for both. J Milburn (talk) 16:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Khanassassin ☪ 18:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Legolas

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

this discussion going nowhere. let's all focus on fixing what we can and sticking together rather than bickering. Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hope you all are aware of this. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

The fact that someone has questioned the edits of an individual participating in the WikiCup is not something we can do much about, nor does it particularly relate to the competition. I'm not really seeing why we all need to be aware of it. If it wasn't for the fact I knew that this was just part of your continual drive to discredit the project, I'd assume it was canvassing or hate-mongering. J Milburn (talk) 00:25, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

J Milburn, it would be considerate of you to remove the most hateful personal attack you lodged above ... should you decide to go the extra mile, you might even consider thanking me for taking the time to let you know that the entries of a participant need to be reviewed for falsification of sources. I'll hold my breath. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

J Milburn, this was a disappointing response. I would have posted the same notice has Sandy not done it. Are you not a contest judge? Are you not interested that a participant in your contest left a streak of very problematic work on Wikipedia and then accepted contest points for it? I would think that step one of trying to deal with these individual issues is to raise them on the project talk page, thus preventing them from becoming systemic issues. --Laser brain (talk) 04:53, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Seconded Laser brain's comment. Especially the part about it being a disappointing response. If SandyGeorgia wanted to discredit the project, why the hell would she sink so much time into trying to keep copyright violations out of it? Sven Manguard Wha? 05:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Rather poorly expressed, but that's not a personal attack. It's pretty clear you have never approved of this competition, although I don't personally believe that was the primary motivation in this case. I've restored it until J, as the original poster, decides if he would like to redact it (or not). In any case, I will express gratitude for bringing this to our attention, and I assure you that we will look into this. Sven- discrediting the Cup by linking these copyright issues (or quality, etc., etc.) to a supposed drive to win the competition. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 05:38, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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DYK point credit question

As of right now, I'm definitely on the bubble as it were with my ten points ([1]). My question is, right now I have a pending DYK nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Undercover: Operation Wintersun. Would there be any way to receive credit for it now if it gets approved before the end of the month but doesn't go up on the main page? I'd very much like to stay in this competition. Nomader (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid not. Until articles appear on the main page, they cannot be counted. J Milburn (talk) 00:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I reviewed the hook, and think it looks good (made a few minor link tweaks). Hopefully someone picks it up for the queue soon, but you might want to post it on the DYK talkpage to get it attention (note that I'm not sure if requesting a speedier queue-adoption is accepted there). Good luck! Ruby 2010/2013 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I doubt that asking for speedy queue adoption would be looked upon favorably; thanks for the review! Here's hoping it gets onto the queue on time. Nomader (talk) 15:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I informed WT:DYK of this. I know how I would feel if my approved hook didn't make it in time. :) BCS (Talk) 21:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

It currently stands to be displayed some time tomorrow (25th) if I'm looking at things correctly. GRAPPLE X 22:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Nomader (talk) 10:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Archives

Could someone please update the way the talk page is archived? Currently the bot is dumping archived threads into Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Archive/2011/4, which I think should be WT:WikiCup/Archive/2012/1. However, I don't know how to go about making this change. The template at the top of the page also needs to be updated to show the new year (I can do this, but the judges probably understand the archive bot better than I do, since I've never used it!). Dana boomer (talk) 16:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Good catch, I've made some changes. I've not used that archiving system before, but I think it should work. J Milburn (talk) 16:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 14:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Round 1

Is round 1 over? I know it might be a dumb question, but the top of the project page states that round 1 was suppose to end on the 26th. However, no changes have been made. I just had a GA pass today and I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to add it since I think I can claim it in round 2 since it passed after round 1 ended. I don't need the points, as of this moment, to get to round 2 and don't want them to be wasted in a round I've already advanced pass, not trying to be pushy is this is just a time constraint for the judges, I just want to be sure that everything I'm doing is on the up and up. Thanks,--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 21:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You should wait and claim in round 2; round 1 did indeed finish at the prescribed hour. - Jarry1250 ^{[Deliberation needed]} 21:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yeah, sorry, I'm running through the necessary bits as we speak. This is why we have the grace period- jumping straight from one round to another would be hell for Ed and I! I'll put a note up on the main page. J Milburn (talk) 21:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the quick response. I understand that it takes you guys time to sort everything out and I didn't want to be a bother, but I was right on the bubble for round one and if players were still collecting points I didn't want to be eliminated while sitting on 30 points for next round. Thanks again, the competition is lots of fun and I appreciate all of the time and effort you guys must have to put in to keep it going. (bonus points for being a kiss up? ha ha ha). --Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 21:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I never thought of the deadline. I guess I should have taken an extra day to respond to the GAN comments at In Flanders Fields, heh. Resolute 23:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

preliminary list on end of round 1

I created the Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2012/Round 1 list. If anything is not according to what it should be please change it accordingly. --Stone (talk) 22:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

There is a small mistake with that list, but, as you posted this, I updated the main page. Sorry! J Milburn (talk) 22:23, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Corrected the error, and I will update that page once the tiebreaker is complete. J Milburn (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Timing did not cooperate with me this year. I have been working on several articles (including one currently listed at GAN) and spending a lot of time on Commons lately. While I will not be winning the Cup this year (as if I had a chance!) I look forward to watching the competition and seeing the results of participants' labor. Best of luck! --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Tiebreaker

Ok, we are left with 6 user on 10 points, but only one of them will be able to make it through. The tiebreaker is simple- I am asking for any of those tied to tell me of any additional work that they have done that may be deserving of recognition. Examples of this include articles upon which there has not been significant work this year passing during the round, articles upon which work was done in the round passing after the round has finished, review work (perhaps at FAC, PR or something similar) which was not awarded points, or the like. J Milburn (talk) 22:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I would like to get into round 2, but there is only work on the Antimony article I did this year, but it is not in GAN yet. I will have time to work on ExoMars in real life a little bit this year so no big deal.--Stone (talk) 22:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I have not contributed anything significant enough to be awarded points based on the criteria, other than what has already been submitted. I have been editing quite infrequently (abnormally, in fact), and I don't expect my editing habits to change until summer. For that reason, I would like to withdraw myself from Wikicup and allow those to whom the 64th spot is more deserving to have a chance to continue. Akihironihongo (talk) 23:23, 27 February 2012 (UTC)