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Rfc WP:OR[edit]

No reliable source is provided for this image and it's related inline text. Perhaps this is original research? (I doubt it, since I remember studying this in High School Biology and seeing similar graphs). No matter the case, a reliable, notable, and verifiable source should be added or the image should be removed. Can someone please add a reliable reference? Thank you. --CyclePat (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A similar discussion was corss posted at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Respiratory_system_complete_en.svg#Sources --CyclePat (talk) 18:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is an RfC for policy comments but it is also the first step being used to contact the administrator who closed the June 6th 2008 [deletion discusion]. There is still no reliabe source provided for this picture. Please see Wikipedia:Images#Pertinence and encyclopedicity which states : "Images must be relevant to the article they appear in and be significantly relative to the article's topic. Their origin must be properly referenced." Since the closing deletion discussion the fact that image was not listed in any article has come to light! Hence, in this case the image is not used in any article (and should not be used in any article) because it has no references. --CyclePat (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Finding sources:

http://www.sk.lung.ca/content.cfm?edit_realword=lungparts --CyclePat (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I think it's absurd that you are challenging something about which you obviously know very little, here are a few references for you:
Hopefully this will but this absurdity to rest. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am advising you that I find your remarks "this absurdity" and "you are challenging something about which you obviously know very little" quite rude and lacking in good faith. The reason for this is because I am asking an honest question. In fact this may be inferred from your statement where you say "you [CyclePat] obviously know very little". Here is my rhetorical question? Who else would be the perfect candidate to challenge information? Would it be someone that knows something about the subject? I would personally consider it disruptive if they did know allot or anything about the subject matter... the reason being is if someone know something or knows the correct "references" then obviously they shouldn't have to challenge the information. On the other hand, take someone like myself, as you say who "obviously knows very little". There is no way this could be considered disruptive. Again, it's an honest request to provide a proper reference! I hope you understand that, at this point in time, I would appreciate an apology for the contradictory statement which I find somewhat rude and starkly. Despite all this melodrama, I do appreciate the references you have provided. It appears to be great work. However, on the first two references I clicked on, they did not appear to give all the same information as found in this current image. I will therefore analyze (or verify as we say here on Wikipedia) the references in further details. If throughout the ones you have provided we are missing any one word, I will be required to, again declare this image as "un-verifiable" and hence "Original research". On a final note I would like to direct your attention to "Wikipedia:No original research/noticeboard#Image without references". Regards. --CyclePat (talk) 08:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Verification of aforementioned references with this image![edit]

Reference #1 (AMA): Delete means that the terms from this reference are not being used in the image:Respiratory system complete en.svg. Keep means that the terms are being used and that they make a good reference.

  • Keep  : Nasal Cavity [1]
  • Delete  : Paranasal Sinuses [1] (Note: Paranasal Sinuses is not a term used in this image. This image calls both distinctive locations as Frontal Sinus & Sphenoid Sinus).
  • Delete  : Nose Hairs[1] is pointing at the same location as nasal vestibule
  • Keep  : Pharynx[1] (note: We should find a better source because the AMA misspells the word Pharynx as Pharnyx)
  • Keep  : epiglottis [1]
  • Delete  : The "vocal fold" appears to be at the same location as the AMA's Larynx [1]? --CyclePat (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cricoid Cartilage[edit]

There's a mistake. Where the label says "Cricoid Cartilage", it actually points at tracheal rings. Ehudzel (talk) 22:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Intermediate bronchus[edit]

"Intermediate bronchus" is mislabelled. It should be the right intermediate bronchus, i.e. on the left side of the diagram. Axl ¤ [Talk] 20:34, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and as Ehudzel points out, "cricoid cartilage" is also mislabelled. Axl ¤ [Talk] 20:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b c d e f http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/7166.html
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