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Six Moral Tales
[edit]I'm curious why there is not a separate page for the Six Moral Tales as a series. It seems that these are popular enough and the six films should really be considered together as varations on the same theme. I've just finished watching the fourth of the six and have taken some notes based on the commentary. Was wondering if there was any specific reason why a page had not been created for the six moral tales as a series. If not, I think I might create one to try and tie the films together. Wnorton (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Date and place of birth
[edit]en:Wikipedia currently says 4 April at Nancy
fr: says 4 April at Tulle
de: and it: say 21 March at Tulle
Various combinations on Google too. Is it perhaps the truth that M. Rohmer (not his real name) is being delberately and characteristically mysterious? -- Picapica 15:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Eric Rohmer film articles
[edit]I'm guessing not many people read this talk page but if there are any Rohmer fans out there here's a nice task for you! Countless pages with little or no content have been created for Eric Rohmer's more obscure films and in particular short films. Most have been tagged as unimportant or not notable. I have switched many of these tags to an expand tag but given that I particularly despise the guy's work I am frankly not interested in spending time to add enough details for these to become decent articles. Another possibility would be to redirect all of these articles to Rohmer's filmography. Pascal.Tesson 02:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- Most of this material was added by User:Robertgrassi. Rohmer is important as a filmmaker of the French New Wave and as a film critic, but not popular, making problematic the availability of his films to an English language audience (most editors here on the English wiki). If they aren't expanded within a the next few months, it probably makes sense to condense the material into fewer articles until such time as someone with the appropriate sources can do a better job. -- Slowmover 15:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. A List of short films of Eric Rohmer would make sense for instance. Pascal.Tesson 16:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- I just updated Rohmer's complete works, or at least as complete as I could make it. Now that it's more clear that most of what were categorized as short films are actually television episodes, I'm not sure if it makes sense to create a separate entry for them. As for his short films that are in fact actual stand-alone short films, those I think could be left as separate entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.79.185 (talk • contribs)
- Thanks for improving this article. What sources did you have for the TV episode stuff? -- Slowmover 15:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Good job. Now all we need to do is merge these pages accordingly. Pascal.Tesson 17:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- I was able to find it through a French website: http://mapage.noos.fr/e.rohmer/, though I decided to organize each show by the series first, and then the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.92.158 (talk • contribs)
- Merci beaucoup. -- Slowmover 18:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- de nada -- my one request is that no one reformats his credits into a table.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.92.158 (talk • contribs)
- Merci beaucoup. -- Slowmover 18:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for improving this article. What sources did you have for the TV episode stuff? -- Slowmover 15:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- I just updated Rohmer's complete works, or at least as complete as I could make it. Now that it's more clear that most of what were categorized as short films are actually television episodes, I'm not sure if it makes sense to create a separate entry for them. As for his short films that are in fact actual stand-alone short films, those I think could be left as separate entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.79.185 (talk • contribs)
- Good point. A List of short films of Eric Rohmer would make sense for instance. Pascal.Tesson 16:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
[edit]This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 08:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- The bot was generous. An article on a French artist starting with a quote from the "Daily Telegraph" hardly deserves more than a sneer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.14.135.95 (talk) 19:27, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Small detail: The article says that Rohmer invented the proverb for Les nuits de la plein lune: "A man who has two women loses his soul. But a man who has two houses loses his head." What is the basis? The French article makes no such claim; does anyone know the source (or lack thereof) of the proverb? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.168.55.76 (talk) 13:58, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Use of non-professional actors
[edit]The article should mention his use of non-professional actors, which is an important part of his work. Badagnani 05:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Dialogue
[edit]His mode of creating dialogue for his characters is also very important. He interviewed the actors extensively, then wrote dialogue based on the normal speech patterns of each individual. Badagnani 05:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Birthplace
[edit]He is not born in Nancy but in Tulle (Corrèze)
Filmography
[edit]I think the current filmography section is confusing to a casual reader. I suggest creating a new page Filmography of Éric Rohmer, which would be organized like this page and reorganizing the filmography on this page chronologically and seperating narrative features from shorts and documentaries, as is more common on other film director's pages. I'm just going to go ahead and do this in a few days if no one objects. --Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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Names and birth dates
[edit]- The article title is Éric Rohmer and the lead lists Maurice Henri Joseph Schérer or Jean Marie Maurice Schérer, known as Éric Rohmer and the names are in bold. The reference for the date of birth in the lead is a note and not a source. The subjects name, according to a provided source is Jean-Marie Maurice Scherer. An obituary in The New York Times (a source) is titled Eric Rohmer, a Leading Filmmaker of the French New Wave, Dies at 89, and states that this was one of several pseudonyms. It also states that "According to Who’s Who in France", he was born Maurice Henri Joseph Schérer in Tulle", and "other sources" give his birth name as Jean-Marie Maurice Schérer", and further states that he published the novel Elisabeth under the pen-name Gilbert Cordier.
- The obituary listing alternate versions of his real name are from other sources than The New York Times (the reference) so those sources should be used and not one source simply stating "other sources.
- In the book Eric Rohmer: Film as Theology: Introduction pp. 5: The pseudonyms, pen-name, and various birth dates are explored. In the book an interview with Rohmer, archived by JSTOR from the University of California Press, Eric Rohmer: An Interview (with Graham Petrie), Rohmer gave a reply to the question "Where and when were you born?": "What I say most often-and I don't want to stake my life that it's true-is that I was born at Nancy on April 4, 1923. Sometimes I give other dates, but if you use that one you'll be in agreement with other biographers. It was certainly 1923.".
- Film Reference: Original name, Jean-Marie Maurice Scherer, born "in Nancy (some sources say Tulle), Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France."
- Britannica lists his "original name" as Jean-Marie-Maurice Scherer
- Encyclopedia.com lists: "Born: Jean-Marie Maurice Scherer in Nancy, France, 4 April 1920".
- New wave film.com: born Jean-Marie Maurice Scherer, April 4, 1920 - January 11, 2010, was born in in Nancy, a small town in Lorraine.
- IMBd (not a good reference just further evidence): Jean-Marie Maurice Schérer, born 4 April 1920, Tulle, Corrèze, France
- Allmovie.com: Born - Apr 4, 1920 in Nancy, France
- On a search of Who's Who in France I could not find the name Eric Rohmer orJean Marie Maurice Schérer. Some of these references are likely connected but Jean Marie Maurice Schérer is used far more than a vague second hand use, placed first, of Maurice Henri Joseph Schérer. Otr500 (talk) 11:30, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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