Talk:McAllister Tower Apartments

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the tower located at 100 McAllister St (pictured) in San Francisco used to be a Methodist church, a hotel and an IRS office building before it was refurbished for residential use by students at UC Hastings?

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Skyroom origin

I came across conflicting reasons for the existence of the Skyroom. The more doubtful one is by Ted Simon in his book The River Stops Here. He says the Skyroom was planned from the beginning as an alcohol-serving bar and it was placed high up at the 24th floor because a local ordinance prohibited alcohol consumption within 200 feet of a church. I think Simon's source must have forgotten that the building was planned as early as 1925 when there wasn't much indication that Prohibition would end in 1933. Other sources say that the church/hotel was designed to be a 'dry' hotel. If so, what was on the 24th floor at that time? After 1933, did the Methodist Episcopalians open a cocktail lounge in desperation to attract guests? If not, exactly when did the Empire Hotel open the Skyroom--when did the first drink get poured? Binksternet (talk) 04:12, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answering my own question: Therese Poletti wrote in her blog that the Empire Hotel opened its Sky Room in 1938, and that it was mentioned in the magazine Architect & Engineer in the April 1938 issue. That puts San Francisco's first view lounge 3.5 years behind Manhattan's. Binksternet (talk) 16:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uncredited: Pastor Dr. Walter John Sherman

Would it be possible to add information about Methodist Pastor Dr. Walter John Sherman? He was pivotal in working toward the construction of the building for 10 years. There was a Time Magazine article in 1930 crediting him for his work.^[1] He was also the head pastor of the church while it operated. After the church/hotel failed he moved to San Diego and became a pastor at the First Methodist Church. ^[2] I have more information on him but I don't think it's pertinent. I have no idea how to "properly" edit the page, and I don't intend to try it out, unless someone could give me the green light. comment added by Promontoriumispromontorium (talk • contribs) 08:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to bring mention of Sherman into the article. I think a few sentences about his contribution would be appropriate. Binksternet (talk) 16:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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art deco

i'm really unsure how Binksternet defines art deco...100 mcallister is a classic mix of art deco and gothic revival much as the empire state building, Chrysler etc. again if it's refs you require, you can start here and here. --emerson7 17:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,738830,00.html

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