Talk:2021 Chadian presidential election

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Did you know... that according to Amnesty International, pre-trial detentions, bans on gatherings, and censorship have occurred in Chad in the lead-up to the 2021 presidential election?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that, in the leadup to the 2021 Chadian presidential election, citizens of the country have been forbidden to make posts online?~~ Source: Time article
- ALT1:... that, in the leadup to the 2021 Chadian presidential election, citizens of the country have been forbidden to make certain types of posts online, a decision the president defends as a necessary suppression of hate speech? Source: President's speech, Amnesty International article,

Reviewed: Madoka Kaname

Created by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 00:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

New enough and long enough (though I wish there could at least be a paragraph split in Background). QPQ present. Neutral point of view is maintained IMO, and the article is well sourced and hook fact appears in article with the provided source (though it does not quite make the direct connection to the next election). Good to go; this should be able to run enough in advance of election day to not pose any timing issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:42, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Returned to prep for further discussion after report on the ERRORS page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: Hi! I've been busy as hell the last few days but I am back now. Let's take a look at the error report... yeah, okay, the current hook is not put together very well. I will put a fixed version up as ALT1. Let me know how this one looks. jp×g 16:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: For a hook to be acceptable for DYK, the hook facts must be actually included in the article, and be backed up by an inline citation at the end of the sentence. In this instance, I do not see all the hook facts for ALT1 in the article, although they may be present in the sources you provide. Looking at the article as it is now, you could have ALT2 or ALT3, but not ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2:... that in the 2021 Chadian presidential election, the incumbent Idriss Déby is running for a sixth term, having served five consecutive terms since seizing power in a 1990 revolution?
ALT3:... that, according to Amnesty International, pretrial detentions, systematic bans on gatherings, and attempts to prevent the free exchange of information are rampant in Chad in the lead up to the 2021 Chadian presidential election?

@Cwmhiraeth: Both sources are from the article (and support similar sentences to the one above, although the one above does not appear there in its entirety). If that's an issue, I am fine with taking ALT2 or ALT3. jp×g 20:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sammi Brie: Please could you check the hooks ALT1, ALT2 and ALT3? Thanks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: ALT1 feels a bit tenuously tied together. ALT2 checks out and is in article. ALT3 checks out and is in article. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 is also above the 200 character limit, meaning that either it needs to be shortened, or the idea is dropped and ALT2 becomes the chosen hook. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: Your input is needed here, thanks. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4:... that, according to Amnesty International, pretrial detentions, bans on gatherings, and censorship have occurred in Chad in the leadup to the 2021 Chadian presidential election?

@Narutolovehinata5: This is one I thought of that makes ALT3 a bit more compact. If this is still crap, you can go ahead and use ALT2. Doesn't make a difference to me either way. Just go ahead and do whatever. jp×g 21:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with ALT4, and its attribution of the claims to AI. User:JPxG, I'm a bit surprised that the article is so short, and that half of it is background. Drmies (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to be fair, the election hasn't happened yet and those sources you added (thank you for that, BTW, very nicely written) didn't exist when I wrote the article. Hopefully we'll get a lot more content when the ballots actually drop! jp×g 20:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]