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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 2, 2011.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the medieval cross in the center of the village of Ackworth, West Yorkshire, may have been built as a memorial to victims of the Black Death?

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Requires addition of inline references using one of the {{Cite}} templates
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Switch bullet lists to prose if appropriate
Copy-edit for WP:MOS

Keith D (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 14:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

Style	meets/doesn't meet	Comments
Verifiability	meets/doesn't meet	Comments
Coverage	meets/doesn't meet	Comments
Neutral	meets/doesn't meet	Comments
Stability	meets/doesn't meet	Comments
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Copyright	doesn't meet	Serious violations throughout

Comparisons[edit]

This article is about a village in the North of England, so to be a Good Article its length should theoretically be somewhere between that of the GA North of England hamlet Salta, Cumbria and GA North of England town/city suburb Middleton, Leeds. The length, on good topics, is about equal that of the town/city suburb.

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Copyright[edit]

There seem to be some serious copyright issues:

The parochial history source has over 70% copyvio report

As ever, a lot of the copyvios picked up are quotations, but I question if they need to be this long? The quotation from the Domesday book, for example, perhaps isn't needed, or needed in full.
Some parts of the Society of Friends paragraph contains direct transcription not used as quotations, these parts need to be paraphrased better.
Some short phrases in the John Fothergill section are direct transcription, and whilst this can often be overlooked because there are certain ways of phrasing things that can't be rewritten, the "he took a great interest in" could be.
Similarly, in Economy Agriculture, there is an unquoted phrase reading "the land was capable of employing five ploughs", flagged as direct transcription: this is not a common or even normal turn of phrase, which would need to be rewritten anyway because of how little sense it makes in Modern English. This is quite an important one.
In Stone Quarrying, you have the line "Moor Top consists of 'several good houses, the rest are the cottages of miners and quarryworkers'." - the issue here is that the quote in the source includes the four words here not quoted in the exact same place. You need to either rewrite the lead into the quotation or stick it all in quotation marks.

There's a similar issue with the text quoted from the Ackworth Cuthbert schools source (over 25% copyvio) report.

The Coal Mining section is almost all quotation, and what isn't is almost entirely made up of unquoted direct phrases from the source. Not good.

The genealogy source has over 45% copyvio report

Also largely quotations, and again some of these are excessively long. If a quotation is more than 35 words, it should be a quote block; use of quote blocks should be appropriate both for length of article and the section it appears in. If you want to keep the whole quotation rather than shorten and paraphrase, consider if it's really appropriate for quote blocks to be in these places.

The quotation that starts "3 miles from Hemsworth station..." is very long, unnecessary, and also makes up about half of the text of the Rail Services section, revealing that this section is actually quite anaemic.

The Ackworth schools lhistfd archive source has over 35% copyvio report; though this is less than the ones above, it's perhaps worse because it's mostly not quotations. The same can be said for the Newham Story source (report) which is still over 28%, I'd advise you review how you paraphrase from these as a matter of urgency.
The lead is almost entirely stolen text from the Yorkshire towns and villages source report. This is serious.

At this point, noting the flagrant violations of copyright throughout the article, I am failing this nomination. (Reasons for immediate failures: "2. It contains copyright infringements") However, it would be nice to have this article as a GA, and so if you manage to fix the copyright issues I will happily review it in full. Kingsif (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I also note that this particle article has had severe copyright issues dating back to at least 2005. It may be time to hide it for investigation. Kingsif (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kingsif (talk) 14:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]