Talk:Alexander Mogilny

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Time in the minors[edit]

It's not true about Mogilny's being in the minors for "economic reasons" - a player receives the same pay in the Minors unless he has a two-way contract. Besides that, the "90%" is a totally arbitrary number. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:24, 8 September 2006


A number of people are saying Alex holds records for European players, yet he's ASIAN not European. I've added a request for 3rd opinion to the main web page. Please ensure that you've checked the map for the location of Khabarovsk before commenting to this thread.Sbrynen (talk)

That has more to do with ethnicity then geography. —Krm500 (Communicate!) 04:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
It has everything to do with geography. Khabarovsk, his home town is in Asia, 3000km from Europe and 30km from the Chinese border, and is EAST of almost all of China, and only 200km from the Pacific Ocean —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbrynen (talkcontribs) 04:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Being Russian is most commonly tied to being European. You would be hard pressed to find ANY source claiming Mogilny is Asian, but you will find many stating he is European. – Nurmsook! talk... 17:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Just because it's tied to being European doesn't mean it's correct. His hometown of Khabarovsk is clearly Asian, where Asian="something or someone from Asia". (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

7PO There are many Asians living (born and raised) all over the world. There are many Europeans living (also born and raised) all over Asia. The designation is used as an ethnicity detail. Geography is much more subjective than genetics. Unless there are significant notable sources that call him Asian (and none that contradict this). NJGW (talk) 22:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Technically Jordin Tootoo is Asian then because indians came to NA from there....this whole section needs to deleted, there's nothing to qualify what is "asian". it should go by nationality or ethnicity, but not geography, or georgraphy of your grandparents, etc.--Львівське (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

He is ethnically Russian so he is not in the Asian category.--Something12356789 (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The hockey hall of fame considers records by place of birth, not by citizenship or ethnicity. see List of NHL statistical leaders by country or Strong argument that he should be recognized for holding asian records Sbrynen (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

What does that have anything to do with him being Asian? As NJGW, unless there are significant notable sources that call him Asian, and none that contradict this, then this change should not and will not happen. – Nurmsook! talk... 03:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
HHOF goes by country of birth, not tectonic plate.--Львівське (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

If you want to go by what is geographically correct then yes, Alexander Mogilny is Asian as he was born into an area referred to as continental Asia. However, the problem is, most people consider the demonym "Asian" to connote Eastern Asian aka Oriental ethnic people. Russia is also considered past of Eurasia. Eastern Europe or Asia. Considering that countries such as Kazakhstan now fall into the Asian continent and Russia is technically an Asian continent, then Alexander Mogilny is an Asian-continent born player. It's all semantics. Turkey is trying to become a member of the E.U. If it succeeds, it and it's population will be considered European. As for stats, we go by Country and so hes Russian. If we go by place of birth, then he could be considered Asian as he falls geographically into Asian territory.

The key question here is, does anyone really mind if he is considered Asian or European? I just consider him a Russian player. What's weird is, why is Manny Malhotra considered one of the first South-Asian players in the NHL when he was born in Canada?

Because people are trying to push their POV--Львівське (talk) 19:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

First Non-North American Captain[edit]

Mogilny is NOT the first first non-North American captain. That goes to Lars-Erik Sjöberg, who captained the Winnipeg Jets in 1979-80. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYR682 (talkcontribs) 02:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Early NHL career?[edit]

This article desperately needs more detail and focus on Mogilny's early NHL career, particularly his time in Buffalo and Vancouver. The casual reader would assume from this article that Mogilny's time in Toronto was pretty much the highlight of his NHL career, and any educated hockey observer knows that this is inaccurate and very much not true. It's appears that a bias may have been involved in the writing of this article as it now exists, likely written by a Leafs' supporter. Anyone who wants to elaborate on Mogilny's earlier career, please feel free. Freshfighter9talk 23:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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