Talk:Amber Road

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Sources[edit]

The article includes external links to sites by Johannes.Richter (talk · contribs); these sites seem to have been used as sources for information for the "Overview of known amber roads by country". However, this seems to be an example of a self-published source. Olessi (talk) 00:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


Prussia? I was stricken by reading (in the head article) that Amber Road in Roman times run from Prussia to Adriatic. Why from Prussia? It obviously didn't exist in Roman times! Amber Road was an ancient trade route, in relation to which the fact that part of it was once controlled by Teutonic Knights and later East Prussia, Prussia and 3rd Reich and is now mostly within borders of Poland seems relatively irrelevant. I'd suggest using modern maps and references to presently existing states or using names of geographical regions rather than political states. (Swawrzyczek (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC))

It could refer to the lands of ancient Baltic peoples (the original Prussians)... AnonMoos (talk) 05:14, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Inconsistent The second sentence reads:"As one of the waterways and ancient highways, for centuries the road led from Europe to Asia and back, and from northern Africa to the Mediterranean Sea." I'd say that is a pretty short road, going from northern africa to the mediterranean sea. I'm feeling ballsy so i'll change it to Baltic sea.  :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.87.234.209 (talk) 19:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


[Source - "River Openia?"] I am unable to find any reference at all to a "River Openia" in Europe. This casts doubt not only on the veracity of the specific statement where this is included, but the rest of the contributions by the same writer. Can anyone present a valid reference for this location? If not, I have to say that this would lead me to conclude that most if not all of the latter sections of this article are potentially unverifiable and should be considered for deletion. -SDT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sernus Duae Turriae (talkcontribs) 06:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Scientific Status of the Amber Road Hypothesis[edit]

I'm a Scandy archaeologist and I have never come across any good scholarly support for the Amber Road hypothesis. The Bronze Age during which it was supposedly active is a prehistoric period in Northern Europe, so there cannot be any written sources and any current place names will only be relevant to far later periods. This article really needs references to recent authoritative sources in the academic archaeological literature. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 11:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean -- there was obviously no physical road in most places, and there were a variety of alternative routes and sub-routes which shifted with circumstances, but nevertheless Baltic amber did find its way to the Mediterranean... AnonMoos (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
We don't know what routes the amber took. Archaeologists are no longer confident in drawing any such route on the map. The article needs references to recent authoritative sources in the academic archaeological literature. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 21:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
We know where the amber is found, and we know some of the main entry points of the amber into the Mediterranean area (at least during some periods), so we do have some generalized information... AnonMoos (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Then please find support in current archaeological literature. I would put it in if I knew of any. I believe this is a discarded hypothesis, but I could be wrong. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 09:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Are you saying that there's no evidence that Baltic amber reached the Mediterranean, or that we only have a very crude and approximate knowledge of the routes by which Baltic amber reached the Mediterranean, or something else? -- AnonMoos (talk) 14:29, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm saying that we have evidence for the end points but none to my knowledge for the road, which is the article's theme. For all I know the amber may have travelled by boat through the Straits of Gibraltar. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 18:58, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I bet it didn't (in any significant quantities), considering that would be a very indirect route between the Baltic and the Adriatic. Certain Victorian Englishmen were highly enamored of the idea that Phoenician ships sailed from Tartessos to Cornwall for tin to alloy for bronze, but no real hard evidence for this has turned up (speaking of hypotheses unsupported by archaeology). AnonMoos (talk) 06:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
You and I can bet any way we want, the article still needs sourcing in current authoritative literature. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 12:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This article looked a lot better before January 2013, when the Amber Road suddenly went from being "an ancient trade route" to "a hypothetical ancient trade route". I see this was added by Martin above, who says "I believe this is a discarded hypothesis, but I could be wrong." You seem to acknowledge that there are plenty of sources on the Amber Road, but they are all now brushed aside by your tentatively uncited belief? I didn't know it could work like that... Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 14:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
The statement that the Amber Road existed has now lost the qualifier "hypothetical" that I put in. What then is the authoritative reference that supports this? It's a paper about the Near East -- not about the area through which the route allegedly went -- in an obscure journal published elsewhere. Is that really the best we can to? No recent paper in Germania or Praehistorisches Zeitschrift? No article in the new Hoops Reallexikon? If Wikipedia is to treat the Amber Road as anything beyond an old archaeological hypothesis, then there should be better referencing here. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 20:07, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

first picture[edit]

calling the first picture "The Amber Road" is clearly wrong and misleading. in the german wiki it is described as the east route of the amber road. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.90.114.46 (talk) 08:28, 12 December 2013 (UTC)