Talk:Australian Jews

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Much work required[edit]

This article is so full of errors, that I hardly know where to start Historygypsy (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC) I can help fixing up this article, but won't be able to for a few weeks. I'm not sure, but i might have a few books that could help.Chumchum14 (talk) 01:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

I don't think the article should be merged with the History of the Jews in Australia. All other articles around the world are seperated. For example, see American Jews and History of the Jews in the United States. Chumchum14 (talk) 00:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Olivia Newton-John's picture?[edit]

What is her picture doing in this article? It clearly says at the bottom of the article on her that she's with the Australian Christian section. Did whoever put the pics on this article just want our attention?Openskye (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

sorry, don't know how that passed me. fixed. Chumchum14 (talk) 02:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

I'm just finding some sources, i'l post em here, cause i'm having a hard time integrating them into the article.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/there-are-as-many-jewish-opinions-as-there-are-jews-20090830-f3i2.html

Chumchum14 (talk) 03:58, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Judaism in Australia[edit]

This article had been redirected to a new Judaism in Australia, which previously redirected to History of the Jews in Australia. I reinstated the earlier version of this article as on a quick inspection a fair bit of encyclopedic information was lost with a straight redirect - this article now points to the 'Judaism in Australia' article. More work is required. -- Paul foord (talk) 23:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Melbourne Hebrew Congregation[edit]

The Melbourne Hebrew Congregation is noted as being in St Kilda here with a citation provided. In fact, it's a Melbourne landmark and is located in Toorak Rd, South Yarra. The major synagogue in St Kilda is the St Kilda Hebrew Congregation: an equally prominent and historically important synagogue, serving a large Jewish community in the area.

The only free to view version of the reference is here, but the relevant pages are not accessible. I'm tagging it for a cite check, but would be grateful if anyone can clarify whether changes in the naming convention may have affected the source (from 1994). --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:51, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

You don't trust me? I can verify it by taking a screenshot picture of the page itself. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 01:05, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
"Melbourne Hebrew Congregation, the oldest and largest in the city, at Toorak and St. Kilda Roads, South Yarra." Alexis Ivanov (talk) 01:10, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I haven't even mentioned you. I've asked whether it can be verified because, if the source states that the Melbourne Hebrew Congregation is located in St Kilda, the source is probably mistaken... which is why I'm asking whether someone else actually knows what is going on. The Melbourne Hebrew Congregation has never existed in St Kilda. Both of the web sites for the synagogues in question certainly attest to this. I want to know whether there has been some sort of renaming since 1994 and whether the Melbourne Hebrew Congregation article needs to be retitled, and whether the information in this article needs to be rewritten to reflect the current situation. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
No, you've misunderstood. St Kilda Road runs through multiple suburbs from the city. (Number 2) Toorak Rd and St Kilda Rd is in South Yarra, a couple of suburbs away from St Kilda suburb. The St Kilda "district" refers to St Kilda, East St Kilda, Elwood, Caulfield, Elsternwick, etc. South Yarra district is located around Richmond, South Melbourne, Melbourne, Toorak, etc. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:19, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Interesting, so you think they moved to a new suburb Alexis Ivanov (talk) 01:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
No, they are definitely two distinct synagogues. The Melbourne Hebrew Congregation was originally right in the heart of the city. According to their web site, their congregation moved to the new Melbourne Synagogue in Toorak Road when it was completed in 1930 and has remained there. So, the location is only just outside of the heart of the city. As Melbourne grew, there was a shift in the Jewish population towards the inner south-east suburbs (such as St Kilda, Caulfield, Malvern: which is what I think the other editor meant by the south-eastern growth, but that happened even before WWII, not recently). The Charnwood Grove synagogue in St Kilda itself would have already existed (it was built in 1876), so it would have been an attraction for the growing Jewish community as it would have been desirable to have a synagogue in reasonable walking distance. What I'm not sure of is whether one or the other of the actual communities have changed their names. The St Kilda Shule is the official title of the St Kilda synagogue, and the South Yarra one calls itself the Melbourne Hebrew Congregation. They've had various names, and I'm wondering whether they've overlapped at some point. I think that I just need to tweak the wording a little to clarify that virtually all of the synagogues (Ashkenazic and Sephardic) are located in the Division of Melbourne Ports area: essentially Melbourne's south-east section of the inner city. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:40, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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