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On 27 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Austria–Prussia rivalry to Austro-Prussian rivalry. The result of the discussion was moved.

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"German dualism" doesn't tend to be a term very common in English-language histories - I and a friend of mine have never heard of it stated as such, and Google is pretty patchy as well, with most hits being irrelevant or copies of the Wikipedia article. Not all, but not many seem to be uses of "German dualism" in English. Anyway, Austria-Prussia rivalry is just kind of a stand-in, and if someone else wants to propose a better target, that's fine. See Talk:German question for the merge discussion. SnowFire (talk) 07:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"German dualism" is something an English person might say. "Austria–Prussia rivalry" not something anybody would ever say, unless there were a Prussian soccer team. "Austro-Prussian rivalry" is good English. 216.8.170.184 (talk) 18:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Except that nobody in English actually uses or says "German dualism?"

Austro-Prussian rivalry would be fine too, although it's a bit invented either way. Wikipedia seems to prefer just the countries in a lot of areas rather than the adjectives; e.g. China–United States relations rather than Sino-American relations. Still, if you have any references using Austro-Prussian, feel free to link 'em and we can move the page. SnowFire (talk) 18:53, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"German dualism" is not particularly rare. I'd be interested in a single source that uses "Austria-Prussia rivalry"! 216.8.170.184 (talk) 13:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Aihotz: - I researched this issue back in 2011, per above. Nobody seemed to use "German Dualism" then, and I don't think anyone really uses it now. I think a Google Books search is probably more useful: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22German+dualism%22

From this, there's a Wikipedia mirror as the first link (always a warning sign - the article used to be titled that), three or so relevant uses of the term, and then incidental uses of the phrase (e.g. " typically German dualism between academic and applied policy analysis"). Three books that use this phrase is absolutely nothing compared to the amount of material out there on the history of Germany & Austria in English language sources, so really not inclined to think it's a common enough name to be bolded as an alternate name or the like. It's just the literal translation of the German term, so it's not surprising to see it show up a little, but that doesn't mean it's a particularly common term in English. SnowFire (talk) 03:49, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SnowFire: I was unaware that nine years ago (to be exact, five) the matter had already been discussed and that you had been involved. I was also unaware that the article was created under the name "German dualism". I think it is right and proper to try, as you propose, to clarify whether the term "German dualism" is used much or little in English. Perhaps we need to clarify it further. Since it does not seem easy I will take a few days to do so. Aihotz (talk) 07:00, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aihotz: Any update on this? Find much significant use of "German dualism" in English to describe this rivalry? (Also, to be clear, bolding is ultimately not the hugest issue, if you're up for improving the article in other ways, that'd be great too... just still pretty skeptical that term is used in English.) SnowFire (talk) 04:56, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Meanwhile, why is there a picture of two statues in Japan as the page image? Brickie (talk) 12:28, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 February 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Soft consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 17:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Austria–Prussia rivalry → Austro-Prussian rivalry – Per WP:COMMONNAME (ngrams and Google Scholar for Austro-Prussian and Austria-Prussia), and for consistency with Austro-Prussian War. BilledMammal (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Srnec (talk) 16:18, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.