Talk:Automatic Reference Counting

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Reference counting not garbage collection?[edit]

The page states that

ARC is not the same thing as garbage collection, as there is no background process doing the deallocation of objects. Unlike garbage collection, ARC does not handle reference cycles automatically; it is up to the programmer to break cycles using weak references.

which goes against the article for garbage collection that lists reference counting as a form of garbage collection and explicitly mentions Objective-C's ARC

Objective-C has not traditionally had it, but Objective-C 2.0 as implemented by Apple for Mac OS X used a runtime collector developed in-house, which was deprecated by LLVM's automatic reference counter, a compile-time garbage collector.

and in my experience, reference counting is generally still considered a form of garbage colelction. I'm not familiar with editing wikipedia, the process of disputing arguable definitions like this, and I don't have any references to back it up so I'm not going to do anything more, but I thought it was worth documenting the inconsistency.

2.221.249.190 (talk) 20:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC) Dylan B

I have edited the article to clarify that it is not the same as Cocoa's garbage collection. This allows the article to contrast the different Apple technologies for memory management - which I think is the useful part - while sidestepping the question of whether ARC is a form of garbage collection or not, which I think is better handled by the main reference counting and garbage collection articles. AJanuary (talk) 12:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Vala[edit]

Vala also uses ARC, why it is not mentioned in this article? 89.166.38.184 (talk) 16:01, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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