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Copyvio on Cypriot Material

I am reverting all edits made by anon IP 85.101.192.81 over the course of 4 Jan 2008. Aside from the fact that references to the history of Cyprus and the term Bloody Christmas should be started as a separate article (possibly Bloody Christmas (Cyprus)??), the majority of the text discussing it is a copyvio of [1]. I'm not saying that the material doesn't deserve a Wikipedia entry, but rather that it should be A) Separate, and B) Not a copyright violation. 74.134.100.173 (talk) 02:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning Bloody Christmas

This is a very well written and informative selection. It is very easy to understand and gives a good description of the aftermath of Bloody Christmas. This article clearly outlines the importance this event had to Mexican American relations with the LAPD and the general public. I was wondering whether you believe that the LAPD was treated fairly. It seems as though the police were not given the proper punishment, giving the atrocities they committed against the men they brutally beat. Another question I have is how do you think your sources got the information they got if the police report had a bias towards the police and your article is neutral between the two groups. A few suggestions for your page is to check over the spelling and grammar on the page; I found a few minor mistakes. Also, check some of your links because I followed the "blackjack" link and it took me to the card game page. This is an excellent page and you did a fantastic job. --Carolyngreene (talk) 18:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the LAPD was treated too kindly and that more officers should have received punishment. However, if you consider that the regulatory bodies were not given the whole picture (since many officers lied or withheld information) it would have been difficult to penalize the force further. Regarding my sources, the main one I used (the Edward Escobar article) got all its information from news articles from the time. However I would say that it was relatively biased against the LAPD. It painted Parker in a negative light that I didn't think he fully deserved, for example it didn't mention any of the officers that were transferred and barely mentioned the suspensions. I think that Parker would have been more concerned with protecting the reputation of the police force than protecting the individual officers. I am glad that you think my article was neutral, that is always something to strive for in an encyclopedia article. I fixed the links too, thanks for the tip. --Beth Hollwood (talk) 14:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and Questions

Could someone either cite the part about the "L.A.P.D. policy on alcohol" or take it out. I am not sure what the policy is and couldn't find it on a google search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.72.129 (talk) 00:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought this article was very well written. In particular, it was helpful to know about the background information in detail so the actual event made more sense. What were some of the effects on the police force in the aftermath of the event? Were any stricter rules put in place as a result? What was the Mexican American and LAPD relationship like afterwards? --BlairJames24 (talk) 14:33, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There were a few results of this event, one of which was the coining of the metaphor "The Thin Blue Line" in reference to law enforcement. You would think that the public would have rejected the police force, however Parker's public relations campaign and the support of major political figure kept the public in general on the police's side. So there weren't actually any major ramifications for the police force. The Mexican American and LAPD relationship for certain did not improve. There were actually many more clashes between the LAPD and Mexican Americans, some of which resulted in deaths of Mexican Americans. The LAPD has also been involved in many more scandals since then. So it seems that not much changed due to the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beth Hollwood (talk • contribs) 14:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

Hello everyone! I've just moved the article from "Bloody Christmas" to "Bloody Christmas (1951)" in order to make way for a disambiguation page, as there are now three events named "Bloody Christmas". I'm being bold with this move: while disambiguation is definitely needed, I'm not sure that the scheme used to disambiguate the target articles (the year of the event, see Bloody Christmas) is ideal. I'd say disambiguation by location (e.g. "Bloody Christmas (Los Angeles)" for this particular article) would be better. That's up to you now... GregorB (talk) 11:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LA Times Reference

The LA Times article from 1997 is available online at http://articles.latimes.com/1997/dec/21/local/me-1006. Not sure how to edit the reference properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.215.191.17 (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]