Talk:Bounty hunter
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Old West Section
[edit]Maybe it should be added the kind of bounty hunters then who hunted fugitives listed as "wanted dead or alive" on their posters, they were allowed to actually kill the fugitive then, unlike now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.110.20 (talk) 01:09, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
History of Bounty Hunting
[edit]I came here looking to research the history of bounty hunting, but I see there is nothing on that. I suggest a history section be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.153.194 (talk) 23:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC) you mightn want to go back in history a little most bounty hunters come from a family of bounty hunters. like michigan bounty hunter lonnie king he was a 3rd generation bounty hunter his grand father was and so was his great grand father. some bounty hunters are not well known. dog the bounty hunter is in no way a real life bounty hunter, thats why they call it a reality show its not real. but real life bounty hunters like lonnie king / bob burton / albert akins they were as real as one can get. there was no reality shows for them back then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoststop2012 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/us/bounty-hunter-texas-shootout.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.google.com/search?q=bounty+hunter+texas&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0tIKz76DUAhVC32MKHZ_vAQUQqAIICw. Update the New York times does a response on Bounty Hunters as a result of a 2017 incident in Texas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:C400:775B:0:0:0:37D1 (talk) 04:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/05/31/3-dead-after-shootout-at-north-texas-car-dealership/
Yes News outlets in 2017 are talking about a shooting incident involving bounty hunters and it ended with 3 people dead.
http://m.newser.com/story/242267/cops-7-bounty-hunters-shot-at-wrong-car-killed-unarmed-man.html
And there's another incident where 7 bounty hunters were facing murder charges.
Citations Needed
[edit]While I do think the number of "citation needed" tags is a bit excessive, the editor who placed them there does have a good point. Some of the claims in the article, while known to those of us in the industry or related industries, are not well-known to the general public and thus need sourcing. I can get the references for laws and regulations put into the article over the next few weeks, but if others with more free-time can do so, it would be appreciated.--Breandán 03:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Bounty Hunting in Canada
[edit]I have reversed the Edit from 00:55 2009/06/01 that stated "Bounty Hunting" was legal in Canada as this is contrary to what the cited source, a NY Times article, says. To the best of my layman's knowledge, verified by internet searches and the yellow pages for a major city (Toronto), there are no Bail Bond r Bounty,hello Mr. wilson, how are you? Hunter businesses in Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ausage (talk • contribs) 01:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Texas Bounty Hunters
[edit]I removed a statement in the artile that claimed that bail bond enforcers in Texas may not carry firearms. In Texas, bail bond enforcers are required to be licensed private investigators or commissioned security officers, and may carry weapons. They may not use deadly force except as allowed for by Section 9.51 of the Texas Penal Code, and are very heavily regulated by the state. The requirements for a bail bond enforcer are stricter in Texas than in most states, but do not prohibit the carrying of a firearm except as restricted by Section 1702, Texas Occupations Code or by Title 37, Part 1, Chapter 35 of the Texas Administrative Code governing private investigators and commissioned security officers.--Breandán 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
non-metal guns?
[edit]Googling for "non-metal guns" makes this page come up second. It seems rather unlikely that non-metal guns exist. Either the remark in this article is uninformed and inaccurate (referring to the Glock, which in fact has a whole lot of metal in it) or refers to non-public information, in which case a little backup and citation would be preferable. TurboCat 09:53, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Look, in this line of work you gotta be on the cutting edge. That means mad google skillz at the office and superior firepower in the field. I never go out on a job without my carbon ceramic BFG9000. That would be insufficiently badass. --Ryanrs 21:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- On second thought, I'm going to delete that sentence about non-metal guns. Gotta maintain my info EDGE. --Ryanrs 21:40, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Fiction Bounty Hunters
[edit]Fictional examples should probably focus on real-life bond enforcement agents rather than the "bounty hunters" of science fiction, who are usually closer to what would be considered a straight-up assassin or mercenary in real life.
- Or, somebody should write up and include a longer entry on the general concept of fictional bounty hunters and their job descriptions, juxtaposed to the real-life one. That way, this article could deliver a sort of... synergy. --194.89.3.200 14:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Why is Domino Harvey listed as a fictional bounty hunter when she was very real, and the movie was based on her life with her advising on the set? Removing it unless a compelling reason for a real-life bounty hunter being listed in the fictional section is given --Breandán 14:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Though I see the irony of adding this under a statement like that, the characters from Pandemic's game "Mercenaries" may be considered bounty hunters. Various members of opposing factions are captured by the character for a bounty (which is halved should the target die), similar to the western-style bounty hunter instead of being "only" mercenaries. --165.234.135.182 (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
The ref to _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?_ was totally unwarranted -- the character of Deckard in that book is a government agent hunting down criminals with the intent of killing them, not a private individual hired to hunt down a criminal with the intent of taking them into custody.
- Well, often a bounty hunter is someone that hunts for bounty, whatever the means. ;) The short story was actually retitled "The bounty hunter" for some releases... think about it metaphorically. You're right in the aspect that it isn't what modern or real-life bounty hunting is. --194.89.3.200 14:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
"This tradition has been adopted by science fiction (frequently inspired by westerns)" Suggest substituting 'science fiction' with 'space opera' or similar, since science fiction in general really is not frequently inspired by westerns.
- Fixed. It's sad that the public thinks thoroughly idiotic fare in the vein of Firefly actually is the essence of science fiction. Hrr. --194.89.3.200 14:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Suggest that contributor above actually watch a few episodes of the series in question before calling it "idiotic." Any episodes, that is, other than The Train Job. 200.107.233.10 (talk) 01:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The bounty hunters in science fiction are their own style of occupation. They really have nothing to do with the "western" style of bounty hunter, so there really is no connection to speak of there. But bounty hunters have been an integral part of science fiction ever since Star Wars first gave us Boba Fett, so I think there should be more said about them. Perhaps in a new article.
What about Brisco County, Jr. (Bruce Campbell) and Lord Bowler from The Adventures of Brisco County Jr.? Bruce Campbell went to my college...I gotta represent... --Atticus2020 01:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
clarification necessary
[edit]"In the United States of America, bounty hunters have nearly limitless authority in their duties with regard to their targets.[citation needed] Unlike a police officer, a bounty hunter can enter the fugitive's private property without a warrant.[citation needed] Normally, bounty hunters do not undergo any formal training, and are generally unlicensed, only requiring sanction from a bail bondsman to operate"
The above is taken from the article itself. I think that this section needs to state that this is simply the policy of the U.S. Supreme Court and that individual states have their own laws regulating bounty hunting. Therefore, only one citation is needed for that section and that's the Supreme Court decision itself, which was already cited earlier in the article.Jlujan69 05:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I added a couple of citations regarding California and Kentucky laws, deleted the two "citation needed" references there, and added a link at the bottom of the page for a summary of laws regarding bounty hunting in all states.Jlujan69 05:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Bounty hunting as a form of vigilantism
[edit]I added a Citation needed, because of two reasons. A: 60 minutes is a well known source of media, and without a citation the name 60 minutes alone can turn what might be an urban legend into a fact in many peoples minds. B: Civil rights is a very deeply discussed subject, if your going to state that civil right violations have occurred, then it should be cited which cases this has occurred by bounty hunters. --Cazamus 10:43, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Big game bounties
[edit]I am surprised to see that there is no mention in this article (or on the bounty hunter disambig page, or in the bounty article!) of the historic *animal* bounty hunter, who made his living killing coyotes, wolves, and mountain lions and turning their hides in to the state. Nearly universal throughout the mountain West. The wolves and mountain lions were driven to near extinction by them (and, as a result, the profession died immediately after.) Just a handful of places left with animal bounties... Alaska's effort to reinstate a wolf bounty was just struck down by the state supreme court. TaigaBridge 06:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be some information about animal bounties mentioned and the trend to reintroduce predators.
In regard to the now popular humanitarian effort to reinstate wolves (and other predators) back into some areas. I do understand the role predators have in maintaining the balance in the wild but in some cases there was a valid reason they were eradicated in the first place. Ranchers had a right to protect their stock and in some cases people were threatened by wild animal attacks. The full impact of this reintroduction program will not be realized until animal attacks reemerge after public interest and environment management funding has dwindled. The constant balance needs to be maintained of wild things will seek to over ride their boundaries.
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OREGON IS ALSO A STATE THAT BANS ALL BOUNTY HUNTING!
[edit]- Then add the information, and source it. (And unclick your caplock). --Orange Mike 15:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Check again..Oregon House and Senate just passed HB2682 and as of July 1, 2009 Bounty Hunting is once again legal in Oregon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.134.165.207 (talk) 19:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
"for apprehending by law, if such laws exist"
[edit]The last part of the opening sentence doesn't make sense to me. "A bounty hunter is an person who captures fugitives for a monetary reward (bounty), for apprehending by law, if such laws exist." Nurg 02:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
error
[edit]this article is locked and there is an obvious grammatical error in the first sentence.--Dominik92 22:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- If the article ever was locked, it isn't now. --Orange Mike 01:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Star Trek: Enterprise
[edit]In this, two bounty hunters capture the captain of this ship. 65.163.112.104 01:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- In this what? This article isn't a place to randomly dump every TV show that ever had a bounty hunter in it. --Orange Mike 01:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is an old thread, but I'm going to revive it. Do we really need a grocery-list of every fictional bounty hunter that appears in everything. Main characters, MAYBE, but do we need to list every bounty hunter that had a walk-on in the Star Wars movies?--JeffJ (talk) 15:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Bobba fett
[edit]Including him in this article is more ridiculous then including Gordon Freeman in the list of theoretical physicists (which people have tried to do, believe it or not). Shouldn't these characters (and I stress the word characters) be in a separate area for fiction? This is an article about ACTUAL bounty hunters, not characters with flame throwers and jetpacks that are called bounty hunters for literary sake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.236.174 (talk) 00:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
List of real life bounty hunters?
[edit]Would it be possible to include actual real life bounty hunters on the famous bounty hunters section? Most of them are fictonal, and I know there had to be more real life ones. I don't know any, so I cannot readily contribute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.214.78.223 (talk) 00:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC) lonnie king from michigan he is one of the most real life bounty hunters out there he is in no way a reality show star. he is foreal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoststop2012 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Californian penal code
[edit]I can't find a number 1299 in the Californian penal code. See http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=pen. Has there been some changes lately? --92.229.155.128 (talk) 19:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Bounty Hunter
[edit]I have a guy named Dave McGregor saying he is a bounty collector trying to collect 1600 dollars for his client would like to know if he is a real bounty hunter please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.134.164.219 (talk) 08:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
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Two Small Points
[edit]In the opening paragraph we read 'they use only standard law enforcement agencies'. What is the meaning of 'standard' here?
Could 'rearrest' be consistently spelt without a hyphen or consistently spelt with a hyphen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.58.17 (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Arrest warrants?
[edit]The "False arrest" page states that bounty hunters have an arrest warrant or bench warrant to arrest the fugitives. This should be described in the article because the article describes other kinds of warrants that are not needed. Do bounty hunters need such a warrant? Please explain this in the article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wykypydya (talk • contribs) 06:44, 2 August 2011
John Oliver coverage
[edit]This topic was covered by John Oliver on "Last Week Tonight" here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProtectorServant (talk • contribs) 12 June 2015
- Thanks ProtectorServant. The Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Bail (HBO) is a good 17min video, which I mined for resources. He cited The Criminal Justice Review: The regulation and control of bail recovery agents, an exploratory study. "There are 18 states where theoretically anyone can become a bail recovery agent..." --Wuerzele (talk) 18:26, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Rhodesia
[edit]The so-called Range Detectives in Rhodesia were not bounty hunters. A financial incentive for capturing poachers does not make a park ranger a bounty hunter. Bounty hunting is purely American.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:10, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know if bounty hunting is purely American, but this section is confusing and sounds unrelated.
- Were there bounties on the cattle thieves in Rhodesia? --Zaurus (talk) 17:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Bounty hunter and skip tracers
[edit]"Bounty hunters are sometimes misleadingly called "skiptracers", where skiptracing generally refers to the process of searching for an individual through less direct methods than active pursuit and apprehension, such as spies or debt collectors. While bounty hunters may be skiptracers as well, bounty hunting is a civil matter and does not always imply criminal conduct on the part of the individual being traced."
This is wrong. "Bounty hunting" is always a criminal matter, as the principal must have committed an arrestable offense for which bail is required. I believe what the author meant istead that "While bounty hunters may be skiptracers as well, skip tracing is a civil matter", since skip tracers also work for debt colectors, debt collectiong being a civil matter. I am going to edit this section in 24 hours if no one replies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14D:2A70:81D4:DD9F:496:5383:3C8D (talk) 02:35, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
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United States (by state) total annual payments for "bounty hunter" occupation.
Inconsistent
[edit]' In modern times, bounty hunters are known as bail enforcement agents (bail bondsmen) and carry out arrests ' versus: ' Most bounty hunters are employed by bail bondsmen: '
As far as I can see the second is true: calling themselves bail bondsmen would muddy their status. Claverhouse (talk) 15:47, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
- And... in the infobox it has Activity Sectors, including of course the USA, but adding Rhodesia.
- Since that only seems to apply to the circumstance of the Bush War mentioned in a section, and not to catching fugitives as in America, and since Rhodesia no longer exists, I'm taking it out.
- For that matter no mention at all in the article of modern-day Philippines or Brazil, so maybe they were shoved in just to make America look less exceptional. Claverhouse (talk) 15:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
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