Talk:Buffalo State University

Largest four year college?

How? SUNY Buffalo has 10,000 more undergrads. --AW 21:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

A: SUNY Buffalo is a "University". Buffalo State "College" is the largest "College" in SUNY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.223.19.91 (talk • contribs)

I'll explain that then. --AW 21:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

• First of all, Buff State isn't a four-year college. They offer Master's Degrees. Also, setting that aside for the moment, Empire State College is a good deal bigger than Buff State. 168.100.250.171 (talk) 12:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

? Do they still have a spelling test in the Journalism program? Or has spell check mad that absoleet.

Name of school?

Looking at the article and their website, I see three versions of the name:

• Buffalo State College
• SUNY Buffalo State
• Buffalo State, The State University of New York

Which is the formal name, and which is the name used commonly? The intro needs recast to fix that, and I'm wondering whether the article should be moved to SUNY Buffalo State. —C.Fred (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

The college's name was recently changed to Buffalo State, "College" was dropped — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scmath101 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The actually name is SUNY Buffalo State College. People refer to it as Buffalo state(Buff State for "slag") or Buffalo State College(BSC). The 'college' in fact has not been dropped. Xmskab (talk) 06:56, 25 March 2016 (UTC) Xmskab (talk) 06:56, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

I can just imagine the confusion!. Why would you have 2 universities with such similar names in the same city under the same educational system/ university/college system? People go with what they see. The website logo has Buffalo State. http://suny.buffalostate.edu/about So they changed the name to make it more confusing. Is there that much of a lack of past leaders in Buffalo to lend a name. What about a Native Indian Tribe? I just hope they dont both use the SUNY logoStarbwoy (talk) 22:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

DAB issue

There is a discussion going at Talk:State University of New York–Buffalo concerning whether that page should be a redirect directly to University at Buffalo or a dab page including both that school and Buffalo State College, given the similarity in the formal names of the two. Comments welcome - thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 16:06, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Article title

Hello, due to the recent history of this article, and the messages sent to me by one of the editors involved, I think it would be best to have a talk page discussion on what title should be used for this article. Personally, I would somewhat favor simply "Buffalo State", as that's the short name used in the logo and the official website. The editor at 2620:CC:8000:213:175:99BE:FC1C:BE2F favors "Buffalo State College", because that makes it clear what Buffalo State really is (and that is also an official short name). Pinging recent editors Pete716, and C.Fred, and will leave messages for the two recent IPs who made multiple edits. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 21:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

The college's specific editorial style page is new; before, we'd been relying on the 2009 edition of the Publication Guidelines. Based on the new link and the enclosing website, it looks like Buffalo State is the preferred short form. Based on the style guide, I'd favor changing the intro as follows:

The State University College at Buffalo, known as Buffalo State, Buffalo State College or SUNY Buffalo State, is a public college in Buffalo, New York, United States, and is part of the State University of New York (SUNY) system. Buffalo State College The college was founded in 1871 as the Buffalo Normal School for the training of teachers. Located on a 125-acre campus in the heart of Buffalo’s cultural corridor, SUNY Buffalo State now offers a wide array of academic programs, including 171 undergraduate programs with 11 honors options, 11 post baccalaureate teacher certification programs, and 61 graduate programs.

References

I would also favor moving the article to Buffalo State. —C.Fred (talk) 01:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree with C.Fred that intro is rewritten very nicely. Maybe just change the order so it says "known as Buffalo State College, Buffalo State or SUNY Buffalo State" .Although I think it should stay as Buffalo State College , to further differentiate as a College and not just a state in Buffalo. SUNy's campus list , lists it as 'Buffao State College' and then Buffalo State when clicked on , as to clear up any confusion between the University at Buffalo.

In favor of keeping article name as Buffalo State College. AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 02:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

References

Text below is from Pete716:

I work in the IT department so I am a little closer to the goings on here on campus. (If this is a conflict let me know and I'll stop updating.) In 2013 the college did a major million dollar rebranding of the school to remove the word "college" from all signage on the campus. The college's short name that is in use is Buffalo State. I see someone referenced the SUNY site that says "Buffalo State College." If you click on the link in the above referenced campus list it points here > https://www.suny.edu/campuses/buffalo-state/ where the name is "Buffalo State." Over the past couple of years the use of Buffalo State College has been phased out. Any remnants of Buffalo State College are simply oversights that are slowing be removed. This reference is VERY out of date http://bscintra.buffalostate.edu/dops/policysect5/050600.pdf and should not be used.

I think what we are debating is the weather name of the page should be "Buffalo State College" or "Buffalo State." Both are correct short names however the college has stopped using the "Buffalo State College" short name on campus. If you take a look to look on www.buffalostate.edu you will see "Buffalo State" short name is used everywhere on the site. This includes the new crest, logos on the site, and titles of pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete716 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Please note the text in the link below clearly shows that "Buffalo State" is the preferred short name for the school. We have been instructed on campus to change our signature files in email and to refer to school as Buffalo State.

http://collegerelations.buffalostate.edu/buffalo-state-specific-editorial-style — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete716 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Here is an article that talks about the rebranding to "Buffalo State" with quotes from the President of the college. http://capitalbusinessblog.bcnys.org/index.php/2013/02/1300-elmwoods-new-name-suny-buffalo-state/

Here is a another article discussing this change from the college newspaper. http://www.bscrecord.com/news/view.php/464161/College-completes-rebranding-effort "Buffalo State's new short title includes two options, "SUNY Buffalo State" or "Buffalo State," replacing the former short title "Buffalo State College." ""By integrating the short name with the new crest, we are clearly communicating who we are as an institution," Podolefsky said." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete716 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME doesn't look at what the subject calls itself so much as what others call it. In this regard, how do newspapers report on the college? If the papers call it "Buffalo State" without fail, then that's clearly the new common name. If there's a mix of usage or preference toward "Buffalo State College", then that could still be seen as the common name, even if it's not the common name the school prefers. —C.Fred (talk) 19:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Just looking through online articles it seems that even local news stations report it as both Buffalo State College and Buffalo State. In the grand scheme of things it seems on a national level or when talking in general Buffalo State College would make more sense (and on wiki) , since it let's the reader know its specifically a college, and is more formal, Buffalo State is just a shortened version of Buffalo State College.

http://springvillejournal.com/jordan-stamps-name-in-record-books-while-bengals-stomp-finlandia-62-0/

http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/2015/10/15/lamar-odom-ansari-buffalo-basketball-kardashian/74015424/

http://startup.ny.gov/map-school/buffalo-state-college

http://www.wkbw.com/news/police-investigating-stabbing-near-buffalo-state

http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/local/elmwood/2015/10/04/town-hall-meeting-buffalo-state/73360720/

https://colleges.niche.com/suny-buffalo-state-college/

AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 22:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Alumni here in favor of 'Buffalo State College'. When I tell people where I go I say Buffalo State College. I never really heard it called or call it Buff State in person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B129:DDC4:0:60:4DDD:8A01 (talk) 00:38, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Keep it as Buffalo State College. Notice how Ohio State University's page name is Ohio State University and not Ohio State. wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_University 128.205.216.181 (talk) 05:18, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Notice also that it's not The Ohio State University. —C.Fred (talk) 15:26, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

eh "The" doesn't really add anything. University/College does. AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 01:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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Moving of page from "Buffalo State College" to "Buffalo State University"

Buffalo State College has officially been renamed to Buffalo State University. I have taken care of most of the renaming in the article, so the last step is just to move the page to the new name. However, there is a redirect named "Buffalo State University" that points to "University at Buffalo". Not sure how to remove this if someone else could take care of it so I don't mess things up. Abobeck11 (talk) 17:49, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Abobeck11, it's done. Drmies (talk) 18:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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