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Is capital punishment the norm in East Asia?[edit]

The lead states " Capital punishment is considered the norm in East Asia ..." This is debatable and, arguably, an unhelpful and lazy generalisation. Firstly, is Singapore in East Asia? Definitions vary, but usually include "China, Japan, Mongolia, North Korea, South Korea, and Taiwan" but not Singapore - although Wikipedia itself says (and I've been criticised before for using Wiki as a source) "Countries such as Singapore and Vietnam are also considered a part of the East Asian cultural sphere due to its cultural, religious, and ethnic similarities". Whatever definition is used we should note that Mongolia, Macau and Hong Kong have all abolished the death penalty. In South-East Asia, which Singapore is geographically a part of, Cambodia and the Phillippines have abolished the death penalty while Myanmar is regarded as 'abolitionist-in-practice'^[1] having not carried out an execution since 1985. So the death penalty is not the norm in the region. Unless anyone feels this statement makes an important and valid point I suggest it's removed.BobBadg (talk) 07:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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^ https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/myanmar/

Second the sentiments of BobBadg. The claim, now modified to “Capital punishment is considered the standard in East and Southeast Asia…” is confusing in intent and, even in a broader context, in-and-of-itself. As indicated, it is demonstrably true that capital punishment is not a standard of punishment for many nations of the indicated regions. Furthermore, if there are historical reasons relevant to the understanding of capital punishment in Singapore related to the region’s broader historical or cultural trends, surely they are elaborate enough in their own right to merit their inclusion in a “History” section, with adequate references and Wikilinks to other relevant pages. Perhaps (most broadly) the claim is meant to suggest that capital punishment is recognized as a legitimate form of punishment in Singapore (hence, the inclusion of the United States among other East and Southeast Asian nations). If so, surely the immediate following paragraph referencing a “95%” approval among Singapore citizens affirms that position while avoiding the problematic suggestions of the prior paragraph. For these reasons, both the claim and the subsequent list of nations where capital punishment is practice should be removed and, if replaced, given an elaboration of matching magnitude. The Intervocalic Sigma (talk) 03:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The text appears to have been added here by a blocked editor who makes things up, so it's not a claim on very firm ground. CMD (talk) 19:24, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notable cases of people sentenced to death[edit]

Why is everyone executed/pending execution recently are counted as "notable" and has their own Wikipedia article. They are criminals. SecretSquirrel78 (talk) 09:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/myanmar/

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