Talk:Cearl of Mercia

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Ceorl and Penda[edit]

David Nash Ford ( states that Ceorl was Penda's cousin. Brian Tompsett ( states that Ceorl was a kinsman of Pybba. ( states that Ceorl was a kinsman of Creoda. All three of these sites are expressing the same idea in a different way: he was an Icling (contrary to this article's statement that nothing is known of his ancestry). (I know original research is verboten, but I reckon the most plausible solution, given the way succession seemed to work at the time, is that Ceorl/Cearl was a brother of Pybba.) Where have they all got this information from? 14:18, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

They guessed. It's not actually recorded in any of the sources what their relationship was (if any). Everyking 18:56, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
OK, well Henry of Huntingdon, who wrote centuries later, calls him a "kinsman" of Pybba. Presumably he too was guessing, but that seems like a notable thing to mention, so I added it. Everyking 03:58, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

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