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July 23, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 12, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Chickaboom!, by country musician Tami Neilson, was nominated for both Canadian and New Zealand music awards?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 11:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that since country musician Tami Neilson is both Canadian and a New Zealander, her album Chickaboom! (2020) was nominated for both a Juno Award and an Aotearoa Music Award? Source: https://www.cbc.ca/music/junos/news/here-are-the-2021-juno-award-winners-1.6036001
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2020/11/nz-aotearoa-music-awards-2020-full-list-of-winners.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Agua Fria High School

Created by Prosperosity (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Everything appears in working order and this is a great hook, but, unfortunately, the article is not new enough—created in 2015—so I'm afraid I have to reject it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- That's embarrassing, the nomination is for the album, not the singer, my apologies. New enough, long enough, cited. Looks good, confirmed. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:39, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Krisgabwoosh: Wonderful, thank you so much! --Prosperosity (talk) 23:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Prosperosity and Krisgabwoosh: The hook checks out, but it's a mouthful and you've possibly overexplained, so there's less of a reason to click. Can we try something shorter, like...

ALT0a: ... that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both a Juno and an Aotearoa Music Award?

Other suggestions welcome. Think "catchy song lyric, catchy hook"... Cielquiparle (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cielquiparle: I feel like this oversimplifies the hook to the point that it becomes generic. Any album can be nominated for an award, what makes this particularly interesting? Mentioning that the awards are from different countries (something like "... for both a Canadian Juno and New Zealand Aotearoa" award) could work but, eh, I still like the original. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that awards are inherently boring; it's nicer when there's something more to say. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cielquiparle: How about ALT0b: ... ~~that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both a Canadian Juno and an New Zealand Aotearoa Music Award?~~ Pretty much the same as the original alt with added country names, giving users a reason to click to find out why two different countries awarded her. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Krisgabwoosh: ALT0b is definitely an improvement over ALT0 and ALT0a, IMO. (I've struck ALT0a.) It also overcomes another issue with ALT0, which is that the article doesn't explicitly say that the reason she was nominated for both awards was because of her dual citizenship. (Yes, it's awfully picky I know – I get that it's "implied" – but it also requires some outside knowledge that isn't in the article, whereas in an article like Super Ballon d'Or, the winner's eligibility due to dual citizenship is very explicit.) Listening to the album now (it is great!!) and another thought I had was – is there any way to work in the word "rockabilly" into a hook...? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cielquiparle:Is she a rockabilly singer? If so, just replace "country musician" with "rockabilly musician". Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy for the changes but I'd strongly recommend against "New Zealand Aotearoa" - Aotearoa is the name of the country (and we only ever see the name listed in dual languages as "Aotearoa / New Zealand", so it looks very peculiar). --Prosperosity (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How about ALT0c: ... that Chickaboom! by country musician Tami Neilson was nominated for both Canadian and New Zealand music awards? --Prosperosity (talk) 02:31, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That works for me. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:04, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0c is the best so far. Thanks for workshopping. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 02:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chickaboom!/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Vaughan J. (talk · contribs) 09:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I'm gonna try to complete this today! — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 09:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Infobox needs some changes:

Recorded – "The Lab, Auckland" → "The Lab (Auckland)", and this should be at the studio parameter instead, as the recorded parameter should include the dates of recording for this album per template. Done by reviewer
Genre – Replace hlist with bullet points per template, and uncapitalise rockabilly Done by reviewer
Label – Replace hlist with bullet points per template, "Neilson Records" → "Neilson (independent)", and wikilink Outside Music Done by reviewer
Producer – Replace commas with bullet points per template Done by reviewer

"released in February 2020." → "released on 14 February 2020, by Neilson Records and Outside Music." – you gotta mention the labels and the actual release date Done
Pipe country to Country music Done
I'd suggest mentioning that it debuted at number 8 on the Official New Zealand Music Chart. Don't source it as it is sourced in the charts section. Done

Production

End image caption sentence with full stop. Done
"the songs are inspired" → "the songs in the album are inspired" Done
"sound of rockabilly" → "sound of rockabilly" per WP:OVERLINK Done

Release and promotion

"released as the first single from" → "released as the lead single from" Done
"In February 2021," → "On 19 February 2021," Done

Critical reception

Retitle to "Reception" Done
Everything else looks good!

Track listing

Looks good!

Credits and personnel

Pipe mastering to Mastering (audio) Done
"producer" → "production" and pipe it to Record producer Done
Pipe cover to Album cover Done
"mixing engineer" → "mixing" and pipe it to Audio mixing (recorded music) Done
Wikilink liner notes Done

Charts

Looks good!

Release history

"Neilson Records" → "Neilson (independent)" Done
Remove Southband as it isn't a record label, it is a record store in NZ. Done
Replace commas with hlist Done
Capitalise "Digital download" in deluxe edition row Done

References

Copyvio score – It looks pretty nice at 13%!
The reference list looks okay, but there are some changes needed:

Ref 1 – "New Album CHICKABOOM!" → "New Album Chickaboom!" per MOS:CAPS Done
Ref 5 – Wikilink PopMatters. Done
Ref 9 – "Forthcoming Album CHICKABOOM!" → "Forthcoming Album Chickaboom!" per MOS:CAPS Done
Ref 11 – Wikilink PopMatters. Done
Ref 14 – MOS:CAPS issue. Done
Ref 15 – MOS:CAPS issue, wikilink Bandcamp, and make it as a publisher. Done
Ref 18 – Wikilink Newshub. Done
Ref 19 – Make CBC Music as a publisher. Done

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of these issues are fixed; that was faster than I surprisingly expected! — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 09:34, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosperosity: I see you haven't made any changes to this article, after almost 4 days of this review being on hold. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 01:34, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaughan J.: My apologies, I'll make the changes asap. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:41, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vaughan J.: Done! Thank you so much for reviewing the page. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:53, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pass now; no worries! Now the article looks way better than it was before! Amazing job! — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 01:59, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.