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apologies to those who made such a useful article. I tried to make one minor correction from "Fairbanks" to "Fairbank" and succeeded only in totally messing things up. I hope and assume that someone more competent can revert. cwh 04:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

sorted. Johnbod 15:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Architecture of China in 20th-21st centuries

What about more recent (ie 20th-21st centuries) architecture of China? Gantuya eng 09:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there has been no movement on this issue in the 13 years since this talk discussion was raised. I will contribute some detail on rammed earth construction in the 20th century but this barely scratches the surface. It would be great to develop this further if someone has broader expertise and sources. JArthur1984 (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

HELLO! Is Gantuya eng the only other user who has noticed a complete lack of any discussion of modern Communist era utilitarian architecture? There is also a lack of discussion of the controversy regarding the safety of modern Chinese buildings. Perhaps this article should be renamed to the more appropriate title "Traditional Chinese Architecture" since it does not cover any modern examples.--Bodybagger (talk) 02:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I tagged it with the missing information template. If the consensus is that modern architecture should be omitted, then the article should be renamed "Traditional Chinese Architecture."--Bodybagger (talk) 03:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Many architecture articles lack a certain period, regardless if it is ancient or modern. However, many regional architecture articles contain disproportionate amount of information. I added a disclaimer at top, as the article do lack content about modern architecture. Please add referenced and sourced content into this article.--Balthazarduju (talk) 20:38, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

If someone with an expertise on the subject wants to add a discussion of modern architecture to this article (or create a separate one), it would be nice to have a discussion of the following architectural feature, which apparently is quite popular these days:

Not sure how this is properly called, but it seems like lots of architects - or their customers - like the idea of a huge "window", arch, or just a "hole" in the building... I've put this image selection on the Commons as well. Vmenkov (talk) 04:50, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps people would support a move to Architecture of Imperial China ?? -- Sjschen (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Moving huge blockquote here where it can be discussed before destroying structure of article

User:PericlesofAthens, Here is the blockquote removed from article. Such blockquotes are ugly, in my opinion, and reflect an unwillingness to rewrite the text in your own words. Please discuss on the talk page any plans you have to destroy the structure of the article and take it it over per WP:OWN.

The architecture of China is as old as Chinese civilization. From every source of information - literary, graphic, exemplary - there is strong evidence testifying to the fact that the Chinese have always employed an indigenous system of construction that has retained its principal characteristics from prehistoric times to the present day. Over the vast area from Chinese Turkistan to Japan, from Manchuria to the northern half of French Indochina, the same system of construction is prevalent; and this was the area of Chinese cultural influence. That this system of construction could perpetuate itself for more than four thousand years over such a vast territory and still remain a living architecture, retaining its principal characteristics in spite of repeated foreign invasions - military, intellectual, and spiritual - is a phenomenon comparable only to the continuity of the civilization of which it is an integral part.[1]

I urge you to back off from your aggressive attack and take over of this article. Mattisse 14:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

First off, Mattisse, I think you've finally lost your mind. Second, I wasn't the person who added this blockquote to the article—nice try. Third, I wasn't the one who reverted your edit and placed the blockquote back into the article; that was User:Balthazarduju. Nice try again, Mattisse. Try reading the "history" tab of articles before slinging accusations.--Pericles of AthensTalk 03:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
And what's this about me making an "aggressive attack and take over of this article;" are you bonkers, lady?--Pericles of AthensTalk 03:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Liang, Ssu-ch'eng 1984, A pictorial history of Chinese architecture : a study of the development of its structural system and the evolution of its types, ed. by Wilma Fairbank, Cambridge (Mass.): MIT press

Pagoda pics

Do we really need this many pictures of pagodas? They are definitely a form of Chinese architecture but they are really not representative of most of the general architectural concepts. Sjschen (talk) 00:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. For now, I've gotten rid of the Longhua Temple Pagoda picture, and added a new picture to the article of the Putuo Zongcheng Temple, which features a fusion of Tibetan and Chinese architecture. I hope this balances out the amount of pagoda pictures in the article a bit.--Pericles of AthensTalk 19:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps we should move many of pagoda pictures into galleries under the religious architecture heading?Sjschen (talk) 20:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
There's only four pagoda pictures in this entire article, I don't see any need to eliminate them or move them.--Pericles of AthensTalk 21:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
1) When you have so many pagodas representing different aspects of CA it doesn't help to have them strew all over the article. By gathering them together you can better discuss and compare them, gleaning their features and conceptural contributions to CA. As well, 2)I'm no longer talking about just the pagoda pics, it may also be a good idea to also gallery some of the other pics. Sjschen (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Well then, that's not a half bad idea. You first proposed just placing them in a random category under the religious architecture section. That I would oppose. This, however, seems more acceptable and systematic.--Pericles of AthensTalk 22:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

organization

I propose as the agenda for this article we use the typical classification of building types: 1) history section, (how and why did chinese architecture begin, how did it evolve?) 2) Urban planning 2) Residential, Commerical, Civic, and Landscape sections (how are the buildings different for each user group?) 3) Structural features (how are the buildings assembled?) 4) regional styles (what is the list of different styles, how are the different? why are they different?)

each of the section should be illustrated with diagrams if possible, or photographs I began a stub section on urban planning, please do not delete it. --Gurdjieff (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree. The organisation is all over the place on this article. Kraj35 (talk) 05:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The category currently called "Commoner" might be better called "Vernacular" as this is the term used to refer to the buildings done in a local style and material by the general populace of the time, whereas residential covers palaces and slums.OnHawkspur (talk) 03:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Classification by structure section

What is this section about? It doesn't really explain itself. Right now it appears to be nothing more than a Chinese to English vocabulary list. Ehlkej (talk) 03:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Use better pictures

Why is the first picture you see of Chinese architecture in this page is a rather wonky, indistinct picture of a page of illustration, rather than the photograph of a building? Most pages of architecture of particular country start with a picture that is an iconic building or something very representative of that country, something better could surely be used here? Brackets can make a great illustration, but you'd need to find a better figure than that.Hzh (talk) 22:21, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Needs Restructuring

What this article really needs is a dynasty-by-dynasty breakdown, along with some much more compelling pictures. There also be more mention of the regional differences, which are huge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.63.125 (talk) 19:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Major, traditional house types

I just noticed that two of the five major, traditional, house types in China are absent from Wikipedia. The types listed by a website are as follows, I have linked the two types with Wikipedia articles. There is a image of a "dugout" in this article which apparently is a "cave dwelling" but it was not apparent to me that these were the same thing and there is no text about cave dwellings. Jim Derby (talk) 14:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC) 

Courtyards in Beijing (Siheyuan) or compounds with courtyards in northern China
Farmers' Caves, "cave house", or dugout? (Yaodong) in Northern Shaanxi Province
Earthen Buildings of Hakkas (Tulou) in southeast China's Fujian Province
Seal-like Compound (Yikeyin) in Yunnan province
Stilt Houses (Diaojiaolou) on steep inclines or projecting over water in southern China [1]

Jointnary

While spell checking, I found the word "jointnary" which isn't in online dictionaries. I found it in a few websites, but the ones that don't look like typos are Chinese websites that apparently copy each other. Perhaps joinery was intended, which is at least a similar word relating to carpentry. So I changed it. Art LaPella (talk) 21:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

History section

Perhaps this article needs a history section? Though I'm not knowledgeable enough to write it. K.Bog 17:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

blue roofs

I was hoping to find information on why so many buildings in China have blue roofs? Any ideas? Lime in the Coconut 20:42, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ideas for improvement

I think article is better than Start class, although I'm not re-rating it myself, at this time. However, some improvements may be warranted. One interesting idea would be to add a section on ideas about architecture in mythology and astronomy, such as appears in "Chinese constellations" or as mentioned in "Kunlun (mythology)" Dcattell (talk) 17:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Architecture of Communist China

This topic needs a section, and a redirect here (if not a dedicated article). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:12, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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