Talk:Closed captioning

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What about languages that don't use the Roman alphabet?[edit]

Current closed captioning standards -- for both analog and digital TV in the USA -- are limited to the Roman alphabet. They don't even support cyrillic, let alone Hebrew, Arabic, Devanagari (for Hindi etc.), Chinese, Japanese or Korean. Will this limitation also hold true in the future, or will we see evolution, say toward incorporation of Unicode in closed captioning? LADave (talk) 20:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Closed captioning, as distinct from subtitles, only supports the Latin alphabet. As it is only used in the United States, there's little point in adding support for other alphabets. The future is much more likely to give way to general multi-purpose subtitles rather than changing closed captioning.--Prosfilaes (talk) 13:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Line 21 Analog captioning supports the Latin alphabet with extended characters to cover not only English but Spanish, French, Portuguese, German, Danish, Italian, Finnish and Swedish. Support is also present for non-Latin alphabets, Chinese GB 2312-80, and Korean KSC-5601-1987. I don't see Japanese specifically mentioned, but both the Chinese and the Korean character sets include some Japanese characters (I don't know if it's complete or not).[1] Digital closed captions by default supports the Latin alphabet, but also has provision for 16-bit character sets [2]

That said, I live in Seoul and I've never seen any closed captioning, even in English. Years ago, my colleague advised a government committee which studied whether to require closed captions. But their conclusion was negative. I have no reference for this, but surely a report must exist somewhere, if someone wants it. Rclott (talk) 05:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)rclott

References

  1. ^ EIA-608
  2. ^ EIA-708

Jack Foley[edit]

I requested a citation for Jack Foley as the designer of the Closed Captioning logo, given that he passed away in 1967, seven years prior to even the fledgling British CeeFax service. Anyone able to provide anything? According to www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Image:Closed-captioning-symbol.svg, the logo was created in the 80s? Achromatic (talk) 22:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

It's a case of mistaken identity. I've had a conversation with Jack (John) Foley, a long-time employee of WGBH. He isn't sure if he even created the logo or if it was one of the other designers at WGBH. (Airport) 5 April 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 11:59, 5 April 2012 (UTC).

Intro needs improvement for clarity[edit]

This is such an extremely long article for such a simple concept, yet it fails to present a single clear statement of what CC is. The first sentence under terminology is actually more clear in explaining it. Going on about "cc and legends are both" ... "are both" and "both are" is like starting the article about plants by saying that "plants and animals are both ....... and they are both, and .... they both do xyz. Both live in abc and both produce ... Well, ok, enough of what both do - I want to know about the one individaully and independently of the other. Thanks Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 12:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, and, speaking of clarity, we also need to make clear how do we know (in the US WGBH and in-house real-time roll-up examples, as well as in the UK IMS for ITV and Sky example) that the line "I got the machine ready" is spoken by a man as opposed to a woman or a child, if we don't have any visuals (as in a video) in the article. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 11:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Notice I made my comment about having a video in the article for verifiability purposes, because I have seen many editors make changes to articles without citing sources. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 11:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Also, Rui, since "clear" is a single syllable, we don't say "more clear" as we would, for example, say "more expensive", we instead say "clearer" in the same way we say "older", "heavier", "lighter", "stronger" and so on. You must really learn English grammar before you post another comment here. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 11:28, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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