Talk:Clover Hill Tavern

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Former good articleClover Hill Tavern was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 4, 2020Good article nomineeListed
February 25, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 1, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Appomattox Park (pictured) has a Court-house, Tavern, Jail, Store and Prizery, the Bocock-Isbell, McLean, Peers and Wright houses, the Sweeney and Sweeney-Conner cabins, the Jones and Woodson law offices, ruins and cemeteries?
Current status: Delisted good article

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 00:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

1. Prose  On hold

2. Verifiability  On hold

3. Depth of Coverage  On hold

4. Neutral ✓ Pass

5. Stable ✓ Pass

6. Illustrations ✓ Pass

7. Miscellaneous ✓ Pass

Comments[edit]

1.

  • Lead needs expanded, two sentences isn't enough for a GA.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "outside of the local of the village but within the Park" - Go ahead and link the Park to the relevant article, as it's the first mention in the body of the article, and that'll provide some background as to why Park is capitalized.
 Done
  • "It became a popular stopping point for the stagecoach" - Consider rephrasing this, I'm not sure what the best way to do it is, but "for the stagecoach" is an awkward phrasing here.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "such as Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana." - Link these three states. Readers from outside the US aren't always going to know the state boundaries in the US.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Lilburne had died in 1816" - Drop "had"
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In 1819 Alexander built a ​2 1⁄2-story, four-bay structure as his main residence for his large family" - Comma after 1819 and link "bay" to the architectural term
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's several other places with the "In 18xx" start, there should be a comma after the year for those.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The 1840 U.S. Census of Prince Edward County" - Link the 1840 U.S. Census and Prince Edward County
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " and other government related businesses" - Hyphenate government-related
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In 1865 on Palm Sunday," - Link Palm Sunday
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the rapidly approaching end of the Civil War" - Link the ACW here, not later in the paragraph
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " (aka: Clover Hill) " - The name change has already be explained, so you can remove this
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "at the wen end of the Tavern" Not sure what wen means here, perhaps typo?
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Old Appomattox Court House, two blacksmith shops, the original county jail, the Jones and Woodson law offices, the Plunkett-Meeks Store, two stables, the McLean and Peers homes and some cabins.[8]" - There's some duplinks in here.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Clover Hill Tavern inscription on a marker at the front entrance reads[citation needed]" - Can this be rephrased? The grammar is a bit clunky
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "They were all registered and documented in the National Register of Historic Places on June 26, 1989.[4]" - The registration form has a date in 1966 and NRHP written at the top, so I think the 1966 is the NRHP date.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The gable ends have rakes with dentils" - Link the various architectural terms. To a reader like me without a great knowledge of architecture, this is all Greek to me.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • " The 2-story structure has a full attic" - MOS:NUMERALS, same with a use of 3-story later
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the various measurements, use the convert template to also present metric units.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2.

  • "There was much optimism after the War of 1812. The brothers made considerable money since there was a good economic boom starting in 1815. Clover Hill developed into a thriving commercial village with many people passing through into the "frontier states", such as Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana. Lilburne had died in 1816." - I'm not finding this in the reference
 Done -Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC) corrected to Brown page 121[reply]
  • Ref 9 is dead
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 10 is dead
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Clover Hill Tavern inscription on a marker at the front entrance reads[citation needed]" - Citation needed for the inscription
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Arrange sources vs. further reading and trim further reading like with the other Appomattox articles.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 11 is dead
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refs 1 and 2 take me to search pages.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refs 4, 12, and 13 need publishers
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

3.

  • Visitation statistics need updated
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appears to be a Virginia Historic Landmark, that's worth mentioning
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC) Researched, but could not prove this.[reply]

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6.

  • There's a Billy Hathorn image on this one, but the licensing looks proper.
 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

7.

That's it for the first pass, I'll look over it again once these are addressed. Hog Farm (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug Coldwell: - Ref 11 is a 404, permanent deadlink. Hog Farm (talk) 16:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, I got it archived myself. Looks good to go now. Hog Farm (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Partially cleaned only; presumptively deleted content cited to offline sources, but have not checked the rest. As DC frequently took content from one source, while citing it to another, even public domain sources need to be checked. If content fails verification, it can be presumptively deleted as possible copyvio from a different source. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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