Talk:Conscription in the United Kingdom

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The point in this article[edit]

The UK has no conscription so this article is pointless. The only article needed is one about when there used to be National Service. Also this article appears to be very pro-conscription and not take neutral point of view. 88.109.55.150 (talk) 07:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry this article is not pointless if you read the article it is clear that the UK has had conscription in the past and this article deals with it and also covers National Service. You have flagged it up as a POV problem but you have not explained why it is not neutral and if you could give some clues which bits (most of it is factual so cant really have a POV problem) and why then other editors may be able to help find reliable sources. MilborneOne (talk) 20:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

If Wikipedia were confined to current live topics, it would not be much of a resource. The original complainant half concedes this by "allowing" an article on "National Service". If by this is meant conscription post-1945 only, such an article would be seriously imbalanced.

The article did not appear to be particularly pro-conscription. It did, however, contain a number of errors, and was seriously deficient in referring to conscientious objection. These errors I have sought to correct. NB, especially, the correction in relation to the reserve element of Post-WW2 conscription - it had nothing to do with the TA or other volunteer reserve forces.

Mountdrayton (talk) 20:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Legislation not referenced[edit]

According to http://www.ukat.org.uk/thesaurus/term.php?i=18336, there were five acts of parliament governing conscription in the UK during and after WW2, viz.

National Service (Armed Forces) Act 1939 c81

National Service (No 2) Act 1941 (5 & 6 Geo VI) c4

National Service Act 1941 c15

National Service Act 1948 c64

National Service Act 1950 c30

Of these, only the first and fourth are mentioned. Nor is very much said about the provisions of those acts. My attention was drawn to this when I noticed the first paragraph below the heading "After 1945" referring to the use of the term "National Service". I was called for National Service in February 1947 and that is certainly what it was known as at the time (I believe to distinguish it from Active Service). Moreover, I expected to serve the statutory period of two years, though it turned out that, because I was in the Signals Branch, my release was delayed for a further three months in response to the Berlin Airlift.

Precisely what legislation governed my service I do not know, nor whether it was act of Parliament, order in Council or what. But the impression given that the only fixed period of service was eighteen months is undoubtedly wrong.

I much regret that I do not have the information to correct it.

MikeSy (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Just before my 18th birthday, in October 1950, I joined the British Merchant Navy, which was one of the "essential services", as an apprentice. We sailed in Korean waters, and I was on the first Western ship into China after it became Communist. However, I left after 3 years, and as 8 years was required, I again became eligible for National Service. I figured I'd spent enough time in uniform, and emigrated to the only English speaking country that did not have a draft. Turned out to be Canada. The period is full of similar anecdotal evidence of how National Service impacted lives, hard to verify for this article. JohnClarknew (talk) 18:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ending of National Service/Conscription[edit]

Is it just me, or is it very difficult to determine when conscription ENDED from this article. I'm not a historian, so don't feel qualified, but surely somebody could put it in - and the legislation which enabled it?

British Empire Conscription[edit]

Should there not be a link to the article on Canada: Conscription_Crisis_of_1917 ?

Conscription in Canada was for the British Crown and offices flew the Union Jack. G. Robert Shiplett 22:07, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

The press or Impressment[edit]

The Press gangs of the Georgian Navy were a type of conscription, albeit not as organised and restricted to the Royal Navy. I have added the link to the See Also section but not put anything into the text of the article. Should there not be some mantion? Dabbler (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

History of conscription before 1900[edit]

Please add history of conscription in UK in centuries before 1900. -71.174.180.113 (talk) 02:34, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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