Talk:Dafydd Gam

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Seems to me that the article needs some work. Some obvious questions are:

  • Where are the historic records from that we can be sure he existed?
  • Where do the the three names come from?

I'm also pretty sure that most of the Shakespear can go too. KayEss | talk 9 July 2005 09:32 (UTC)

There is no doubt that he is a real historical figure. Apart from the contemporary accounts of the battle, his wages bill (for himself and the three archers he brought with him) survives among the exchequer rolls of England. He's only a minor figure in Agincourt, the king, the campaign, the battle by Juliet Barker, or I'd cite her as a source, but her book is a good starting point. A surprising number of written records from the time survive. --Old Moonraker 18:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


I've done the best I could with an article in sorry shape (see the article before several generations of attempts to fix it). I've never seen a source for the story that Dafydd saved Henry V's life except on Wikipedia itself, which makes me suspicious. I believe there is more information in Gary Taylor's edition of Henry V (Clarendon Press, 1982) if anyone wants to check it. I don't have it at hand. Chick Bowen 04:39, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

The origin of Dafydd was the Gaelic form of "David" his original name was Sir Dafydd ap Llewellyn (ap being "son of") the Gam is from an eye affliction, either only one eye, or squinting. To fing out more, it is less difficult to research through the name "Gaines" since David Gam is the originator of this name. Begin with Gaines it is easier to find quearies from this entry.

Guy Aylmer[edit]

The "lazily anligicised" Guy Aylmer removed: he is is a fictional character (with a similar story to that of Davy Gam) in a novel about the battle by G.A. Henty, and later works of lesser literary merit. --Old Moonraker 17:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Myth and speculation[edit]

There’s a lot of it in this article. This bit removed, pending a citation ...possibly for fighting ferociously as part of the kings personal bodyguard and saving the life of the king against a desperate onslaught led by the French Duc de Alençon. --Old Moonraker 21:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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