Talk:David Yerushalmi
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Advert & POV Tage
[edit]The POV in this article is atrocious. Most of it is promotional material cited to the organization run by the subject. A quick search of the Reliable References on the subject indicates that he is first and foremost known for causing a large number of controversies. Among the most notable is the fact that the subject has an entire article with the Anti Defamation League. In this article the ADL describes Yerushalmi as as an attorney with a "record of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black bigotry".
But a quick search on David Yerushalmi shows that he is by far most notable because of his white-supremecist views, with 90% of the first page links in a google search discussing this article published by Yerushalmi in the McAdams report, where he argues that "blacks (are) the most murderous of peoples" and that they should be denied the right to vote:
There is a reason the founding fathers did not give women or black slaves the right to vote. You might not agree or like the idea but this country’s founders, otherwise held in the highest esteem for their understanding of human nature and its affect on political society, certainly took it seriously. Why is that? Were they so flawed in their political reckonings that they manhandled the most important aspect of a free society – the vote? If the vote counts for so much in a free and liberal democracy as we “know” it today, why did they limit the vote so dramatically?
— David Yerushalmi, The McAdam Report, May 12, 2006
For these reasons, I am adding the POV and Advert tags.Poyani (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Other helpful references regarding Yerushalmi: New York Times, the Forward, Institute for Policy Studies. Jukeboxgrad (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Have you about making a section about this racist comments section and a anti-Sharia section in addition to the "Notable Litigation" section? Specifically cite the information given by the ADL and other sources on this matter? [[1]] (Thereandnot (talk) 04:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC))
Dispute resolution
[edit]By no means am I intending to promote a particular point of view in editing this article; rather, I am referencing each statement of fact with the most credible source. Nonetheless, let's see if we can work together to find some more neutral sources. If you believe it's important, I can create a section to deal with the allegations of the subject's controversy. However, after initially reviewing your sources, they in themselves are not neutral; indeed, they seem to me to have a more particular point of view than what you state is currently up on this page. Let's see if we can put something neutral together. Danpiedra (talk) 14:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Perspectives on Terrorism
[edit]The article cited "Perspectives on Terrorism" as a peer reviewed journal? I went to the website and it looks self-published. Anyone know if this really a self-published journal? (70.160.29.75 (talk) 22:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC))
"Driving force"
[edit]This wording might look good in ad copy for a sports car, but it has no place in a controversy-laden BLP. It's not used by the source provided, and shouldn't be used here without strong support from a neutral, reliable source. Federales (talk) 02:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- It is the exact word used by the New York Times to describe him. (Thereandnot (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2013 (UTC)) — Thereandnot (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Don't make things up, please. Those words do not appear in the source provided. Federales (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- "In fact, it is the product of an orchestrated drive that began five years ago in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, in the office of a little-known lawyer, David Yerushalmi." The article is titled "the man behind the anti-sharia movement." Are you kidding me? Thereandnot (talk) 03:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) — Thereandnot (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- No, I'm not kidding. The source doesn't say that; it's your own interpretation. This is a BLP, and we must adhere to the highest standards when sourcing contentious material. You should consider self-reverting. Federales (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Given that the article describes him as the man behind the anti-shariah movement, which is the product of an orchestrated drive that began in his office, your BLP concerns are unwarranted unless, say, a source of similar quality identifies a different person with this "honor". –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Federales, if you want to use what the source says then we will say "the man behind the Anti-Shariah movement in the United States" because that is the title of the New York Times article Thereandnot (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- Given that the article describes him as the man behind the anti-shariah movement, which is the product of an orchestrated drive that began in his office, your BLP concerns are unwarranted unless, say, a source of similar quality identifies a different person with this "honor". –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, I'm not kidding. The source doesn't say that; it's your own interpretation. This is a BLP, and we must adhere to the highest standards when sourcing contentious material. You should consider self-reverting. Federales (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
- "In fact, it is the product of an orchestrated drive that began five years ago in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, in the office of a little-known lawyer, David Yerushalmi." The article is titled "the man behind the anti-sharia movement." Are you kidding me? Thereandnot (talk) 03:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC) — Thereandnot (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Don't make things up, please. Those words do not appear in the source provided. Federales (talk) 02:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
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