Talk:Don Partridge

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Copyright problem

This article has been tagged as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) It will likely be deleted after one week unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Major contributions by contributors who have been verified to have violated copyright in multiple articles may be presumptively deleted in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations.

Interested contributors are invited to help clarify the copyright status of this material or rewriting the article in original language at the temporary page linked from the article's face. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source for this article being off-line, I am seeking someone with access to the book to help verify that the content is not copied. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think there may have been a misunderstanding here. I fully understand that "Major contributions by contributors who have been verified to have violated copyright in multiple articles may be presumptively deleted..." But, although the original version of this article (here) contains several references which need to be checked, the article as a whole is not based on, or copied from, any "book". The main book referenced is British Hit Singles & Albums - but that is only referenced for factual information such as chart positions, which can be validated from other similar books. I will check the online sources for copyvios, and use other sources of factual information in rewriting the article, but I can see no evidence so far of there being a copyright problem specifically in this article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 00:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, we do not need evidence that each contribution is a copyright violation. We have evidence of copyright violations in over two dozen articles. Violation is presumptive in the absence of the ability to verify otherwise...which is an understandably difficult procedure. Alternatively, you're welcome to rewrite the article in original language. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 00:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My point was that the reference to "the book" from which copyvios may have stemmed seems to be misplaced. I will redraft the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen the book, so am not familiar with its format. If it's only charts or lists, then you're certainly right that a sentence like "The self penned song, "Rosie", rose to number 4 in the midst of an otherwise pop dominated Top Ten in March 1968" would not have been copied from it. It's a shame that we can't easily determine if material is copyvio clear. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re that point - I don't know (it may have been WP:OR), but I'll redraft anyway. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article now rewritten at Talk:Don Partridge/Temp. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that in order to eliminate copyright concerns, given the contributor's history, the article needs to be rewritten completely. We can't really presume that such material as the following hasn't been copied from somewhere:

As musical tastes changed, and the novelty value of a folk-singing one man band paled, Partridge retreated to his well-worn path of busking for a living. He had made a big impression in Scandinavia, and moved to live in Sweden in the early 1970s. He made two unsuccessful albums there, before ultimately returning to his homeland. However, he resurfaced to a wider public showing by recording a full album in 2004, entitled; The Highwayman. Musical accompaniment of the work was supplied by Herbie Flowers, Nick Pynn (violin)[6] and Richard Durrant. The album contained tracks inspired by Partridge's experiences of life on the road, including the autobiographical song "The Night I Met Elton John".

On the contrary, we have good reason to fear that it is. If it is, your rewrite won't have eliminated the copyright problem:

As musical tastes changed, and the novelty value of a folk-singing one man band paled, Partridge retreated to his well-worn path of busking for a living. He had made a big impression in Scandinavia, and moved to live in Sweden in the early 1970s. He made two unsuccessful albums there, before ultimately returning to his homeland.[citation needed] However, he resurfaced to a wider public showing by recording a full album in 2004, entitled The Highwayman. Musical accompaniment of the work was supplied by Herbie Flowers, Nick Pynn (violin)[10] and Richard Durrant. The album contained tracks inspired by Partridge's experiences of life on the road, including the autobiographical song "The Night I Met Elton John".[11]

Rewriting in the absence of a visible source is rather harder than rewriting when we can point to a document that was copied improperly. In that case, we can more easily see the origin of text and determine what material might have been properly rewritten. Essentially, such articles have to be rewritten from scratch. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK - apologies for not checking that. I have now made further text edits, and checked all the references given against current websites and offline sources in my possession. Any further advice welcome. The occasional bit of encouragement wouldn't go amiss either, but I'm not setting my sights too high. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for my earlier irritation / frustration. Worth another look now? Ghmyrtle (talk) 00:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Blackpool Pier

"He spent the summer of 1968 performing nightly shows at Blackpool Pier". Which one? Blackpool has three piers 209.93.116.101 (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]