Talk:Douglas Chandor

A fact from Douglas Chandor appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1952, Douglas Chandor painted the first portrait of Elizabeth II that she posed for following her accession?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:54, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Chandor in 1921

... that Churchill and Roosevelt sat for portraits by Douglas Chandor, but he never made it to Moscow to paint Joseph Stalin? Source: "In March 1945, Douglas Chandor spent several days at the White House, where he made sketches for a group portrait of Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin to mark their conference the previous month at Yalta, a resort on the Black Sea. The artist wished the painting to be “a conversation about peace,” but it was never realized because Stalin refused to sit for the portrait. National Portrait Gallery Washington, DC
ALT1 ... that in 1952, Douglas Chandor was the first to paint a portrait of Elizabeth II following her accession?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dove Bridge
- Comment: Philafrenzy helped with the hook (see User talk:Philafrenzy)

Created by Edwardx (talk), Whispyhistory (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 21:40, 9 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Good to go. One Earwig false positive (site quotes Wikipedia). It would be great if the cn-tagged line about the half-sister could be cited or trimmed before this runs on the main page. Spot-checked four random sources (12, 15, 17, 18) and found verification and no copyvio issues. I prefer ALT1, and it neatly evades the issue of how to handle the (minor) conflict between how the sources present the Stalin painting's non-existence. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:23, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Firefangledfeathers. Have cited his half-sister as having the same father. The book (relevant page available online) does not mention Douglas Chandor or half-sister as such, but if they have the same father, then she must be his half-sister. Edwardx (talk) 10:20, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that in 1952, Douglas Chandor and his wife kept Elizabeth II amused with jokes and poems while he painted her first portrait following her accession?
ALT3 ... that in 1952, Elizabeth II used a mirror to watch Douglas Chandor paint her first portrait following her accession?

In my humble opinion Alt 3 is the best as it includes the first portrait bit with a quirky twist. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:45, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bits and bobs

Coming here from the DYK nom, I have a couple questions/suggestions:

Are the gardens discussed much in secondary sources about Chandor himself? I think the info in the body of the article is fine, but "garden designer" in the lead seems a bit over-weighted.
At least some of the British Newspaper Archive sources could be replaced with snippets of the same articles accessed via Newspapers.com. Low-res versions of the snippets are available for anyone to view. Would I step on anyone's toes if made some switches?
The grammar in "Chandor aimed to depict" as a lead-in to the quote isn't quite right. Trying to nail it and not duplicate the source text is a bit tough.

Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:33, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Firefangledfeathers:. Made few adjustments and took out depict. The garden bit could be expanded in the text. You won't step on any toes if you "made some switches". Will let Edwardx and Philafrenzy look at CN tag and other bits. Whispyhistory (talk) 02:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note it's Weatherford, Texas, not Weatherford, Texas. Texas is only in the article title to distinguish it from other Weatherfords. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]