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  • The RockMan/Mega Man Killers - The RKNxxx series. The title assigned to the exclusive bosses that appears in each of the Game Boy installments of the series (the RockMan World series in Japan). Each of the robots are named musical genres, much like RockMan was in the Japanese version of the series. Enker (RKN #001) was lance-wielding robot who absorbed Mega Man's attacks with it in Mega Man (GB). Punk (RKN #002), from Mega Man III (GB), is a mohawked-robot with spikes on him. Ballade (RKN #003), the last of the Killers, appeared in Mega Man IV (GB). Also part of this group, but not designated as a Mega Man Killer, is Quint, an unarmed Rock stolen from 37 years in the future who rode on a pogo stick in Mega Man II (GB). All four of the Mega Man Killers made appearances in Mega Man V (GB).

This entry was removed from the article - these are minor characters (arguably, the Support Mecha are as well). Its relevant content will resurface in Robot Master.

The Dark Man entry was deleted entirely, as Dark Man makes only one appearance and is never mentioned in later games. --Boco XLVII 22:15, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Roll=Playable Character[edit]

Shouldn't Roll be put in the playable character column due to the fact that she is playable in the PSP remake of Megaman 1?Gamloverks 16:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Kalinka[edit]

Shouldn't Kalinka be mentioned? Shouldn't she get her own minor article on this page? The link regarding Kalinka on this page simply redirects the reader to Mega Man 4. BassxForte 01:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Umm...not really. Kalinka only showed up in Mega Man 4, and even that was only a slightly more-than-minor role. Sure, she might have reappeared in Anniversary Collection's version as a Navigator, but no other mentions of her were made in the following games or their backstories. That is completely different from even her dad. Sure, Dr. Cossack might've had minor roles as of late, but at least he's a (mostly) recurring character. ChromeWulf ZX 21:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Kalinka and Cossack are playable characters in Wily & Right no RockBoard: That's Paradise. --201.36.253.70 13:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Even so, Kalinka isn't really that important in the long run. ChromeWulf ZX (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

But Reggae gets a mention, and he's even less important. In translated media, his only role is as an error message in MM7's password system, and his only other game appearances are in Rockboard and the Wonderswan installment of Rockman & Forte, the former being impossible to count as canon, and the latter of which his role is as a weapon. I would argue that Kalinka, even if she's only a McGuffin in MM4, is more important than that, as she actually plays a role in the story. -- 76.210.229.95 (talk) 20:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

All of the characters besides Mega Man do not assert notability. They either need real world information or they need to be merged. If there are no ways presented that show the possibility for sources, they will be merged here in a few weeks. TTN (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

So the main villain of almost every Mega Man game isn't notable? Practically, I mean, please don't cite a Wikipedia policy page. Scumbag (talk) 19:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
The notability in the series is different than notability on Wikipedia. This site requires that topics are presented from a real world perspective, which requires these to also follow that. TTN (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Please answer my question in the manner I requested, please. I would like to know why you would consider merging the main villain of the series into the main article of the series. I eagerly await your response, and early await you requesting Sauron be merged into Lord of the Rings or Darth Vader being merged into Star Wars, or any other number of fictional villains retaining their own articles. Scumbag (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not going to ignore the site's standards. If this were Wikia, all characters could freely have articles, but again, this site has its own set of standards. Darth Vader meets those by being a good article, and the other seems to be asserting improvement, though it isn't too great looking. TTN (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
So basically, you have no proper reason why Dr Wily should be merged into the Mega Man article? Thanks for clearing it up. I was merely curious. Scumbag (talk) 07:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
The Characters have to establish notability in the real world, like having articles in gaming magazines noting how they were created, what were early designs, what encyclopedic content can justify them having their own page. As non of Mega mans villian can have that said about them, they should be merged into one article in the hope that all the Characters of Megaman may together have enough notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

There are a goodly number of different and unique Sniper Joe and Met units, as their article states. While I agree it would be silly to have articles for each and every enemy, a specific type of enemy that's part of an organization such as Sniper Joes or Mets is just as valid as any other type of organization article. It just wouldn't be very "encyclopedia-like" if someone said "There are many different types of Sniper Joes" without having something to back that point with, if you ask me. And no, I'm not just saying this because I've worked on the articles so much. I'm very serious when I say that this "organization" as just as much right to be on Wikipedia as, say...the Los Angeles Dodgers, or a list of different types of cartoons, or something. That aside, we went over this last year, I believe, and the vote failed then for the exact reasons I'm stating.
Oh, and on the subject of "having articles in gaming magazines noting how they were created, etc. etc.", there've been plenty of (Japan-only) books regarding the Rockman series and its characters. The Sniper Joe units and Mets, for example, have had a number of pages in varying books. Should you need something a little more "solid" to examine regarding this article, however, here you are. Page 086 from the Rockman & Rockman X Illustrated Reference Book information compendium (ISBN-10: 4062590069), released in late 1994, is a page devoted to the Sniper Joe units. I believe Page 085 is devoted to the Mets. I doubt you'd be able to make heads-or-tails of it regardless, though, given that everything I've linked to you is in Japanese, but there you go anyway. ~ Joseph Collins [U|T|C] 10:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

May I remove the {{merge}} templates fom the pages in question now? Not to toot my own horn, but it seems like no one has anything to contest my claims, so I kind of figure the case is closed. o.o ~ Joseph Collins [U|T|C] 08:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
This article will give a general description with a couple of examples. Describing every enemy falls under game guide material. The above page does not look like it will provide information necessary to keep the articles, so that doesn't really help. As it stands, they fail the guidelines, so there they will still be merged. TTN 19:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
HA! See, I know what the problem is. The problem is is that you're pressuring these guys too much, and using the rules as THREATS against articles rather than just using them to help them out. Jeez, it's no wonder alot of people hate Wikipedia for what WE'RE doin' to it. If no one reachs a consensus with your methods TTN, then you should have NO business bothering these articles for now, don't you think? COMMON SENSE, MAN! >:3 ZeroGiga 01:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Alright. I notice you went ahead and merged a number of character articles and whatnot. I have four words and a acronym for you.
"START A VOTE OR GTFO" ~ Joseph Collins [U|T|C] 10:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Some might consider that last remark uncivil—there's no need to resort to that. In any event, here at Wikipedia we don't determine issues like this with a vote. We use consensus and discussion. Above all, we follow our core policies, such as Wikipedia:Notability, and appropriate guidelines, such as Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). Pagrashtak 20:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm not seeing part of the discussion here, but there seems to be ample proof for real world sources of Mettaurs and Sniper Joes, what with the reference books.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 23:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
The reference book does not establish real world notability. It still only offers information in the subject's fictional universe. Ergo, the articles do not satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) and should be summarily merged into this article, unless valid secondary sources can be shown to demonstrate notability. In any case to User:Joseph Collins, your comments are rather uncouth, and are not needed for necessary here. This is not a message board for your convenience; it is an encyclopedia run by civil discussion. Unless you can prove that the articles merged by TTN do satisfy the current notability guidelines, then you have no recourse other than to accept his decision. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 00:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, okay, whatever. I tried. I failed. Good game, guys. Good game. ~ Joseph Collins [U|T|C] 05:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
"ROBOT MASTER" TO "LIST OF CHARACTERS IN THE MEGAMAN SERIES"!? THIS BECOMES THIS WITH NO DISCUSSION ON THE "ROBOT MASTER" TALK SECTION? I CANT EVEN FIND BUBBLEMAN ON "LIST OF CHARACTERS IN THE MEGAMAN SERIES". YOU GUYS HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ON THIS PAGE WITHOUT THESE PEOPLE AND A DISCUSSION ON THIS PAGE. IF EVERYONES VOTE COUNTS I VOTE NO FOR THE MERGE. OR AT LEAST ADD BUBBLEMAN TO "LIST OF CHARACTERS IN THE MEGAMAN SERIES" 0000ZERO (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

VAs?[edit]

Since most of the former "main" characters have been redirected/merged into this page, shouldn't we start listing the VAs like in the List of Mega Man X characters article? ChromeWulf ZX (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Wily[edit]

I would have to argue that Dr. Wily really deserves his own dedicated page. He's had two games named after him, and has appeared on at least 20 games in the classic series, at least 3 in the Battle Network series, and numerous cameos in other Mega Man games. He's been featured prominently in a cartoon, anime, several movies, and countless mangas. He's not just some minor character, he's the lead villain, and arguably one of the most well known villains in video games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.143.86.178 (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Splitting The Articles[edit]

As you can see from the top of the page, the merge is not a result of the consensus of editors, but of TTN's OWN decision and not giving a damn about anyone elses. I suggest we split some of the articles, such as Dr. Wily and Dr. Light, since they play a role outside of the classic game series, as well as to put an end to TTN's disruptive hold on this page. ZeroGiga (talk) 05:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Alright. We could start with Dr. Wily first. How about it? ZeroGiga (talk) 06:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Source?[edit]

Where the name Xavier from Dr. Thomas Xavier Light comes from? --_14:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Made up. 88.68.192.18 (talk) 11:16, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Proto Man[edit]

Proto man should have his own article. After all, he is a big part of Mega man's history, and the Mega Man franchise as a whole. What do you think? - ~VNinja~ 21:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I have to say I agree. He has enough history and playable games to give him a decent standalone article. Forte X (talk) 01:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

For that matter, there is also sufficient information on Dr. Light and Bass to give them a separate article as well. Forte X (talk) 19:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

If you can find enough encyclopedic and referenced information to make a separate article, go ahead. I fear that a lot of information on these articles will be filled with fancruft and not anything worthwhile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumaga (talkcontribs) 18:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm interested, are there any articles on character archetypes? I'm thinking particularly of the sort that recur across a lot of Japanese games and shounen manga (I think shounen manga might be the source of such characters). Things like the rival archetype who is usually highly similar to the main character in a certain regard, but is obsessed with becoming stronger and beating them in a fight. Bass/Forte is the clear example in Megaman (since he's built to mirror Megaman's design in some regards, has his own robotic dog, can use enemies' weapons...), Shadow the Hedgehog is in Sonic (although arguably Knuckles was originally too), and Vegeta's a rather clear example in shounen manga. To a lesser extent I think that there's a mysterious ally archetype that Protoman/Blues falls into. I'm having trouble thinking of examples of that... but does anyone know if an article describing these things exists? I think characters like Bass and Protoman might be important to developing the archetype in video games, which might give more relevance to their articles. Just a suggestion. Darien Shields (talk) 20:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Quint[edit]

I think that the information about Quint is inaccurate. To my knowledge, Wily travels 32.7 years into the future where Mega Man has won and was reverted to a housekeeping robot. In this time, Wily is now good, and works with Light again for the betterment of mankind. Wily then convinces his future self to kidnap the now unarmed Mega Man and bring him back to past Wily. Past Wily then reprograms Mega Man, outfitting him with futuristic technology and upgraded armor, then brings him back to the past. I don't recall Mega Man's body being scrapped at any time. Forte X (talk) 01:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

The booklet of Mega Man II (Game Boy) only says that Wily travelled to the future. Why do you think he had any contact with a future Mega Man? 88.68.192.18 (talk) 11:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know where the name comes from? It would likely be a musical term. The Wikipedia article claims it could refer to a type of sackbut (hard to find independent attestations) or an organ stop. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 12:52, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Light[edit]

Why is it that Thomas Light, the man responsible for the entire franchise as well as the creator of the protaganists of two of its greatest series, doesn't have his own article? This, my fellow enthusiasts, must be some sort of sorry joke indeed. The world of Megaman owes its existence several times over to Dr. Light. His placement here is nothing short of an insult to that! 02:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Well there isn't a whole heck of a lot you can say for Light in a real world aspect compared to Mega Man or Wily.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 10:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to merge Wily into here[edit]

Not something I'm particularly fond of, but it's kinda a dead end article that really won't give a lot of material on the subject in the end. Wily hasn't changed as a character in the series, reception dried up faster than expected, and there's only one statement for development I can even cite where Inafune notes he disliked the older artwork for the characters, but that hardly is specific to Wily.

It's a different case in the long run from someone like Robotnik where there was a point to give the central villain real world relevance: Wily just doesn't have much at all, despite being recognizable...--Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Assumptions about characters[edit]

Why is the article claiming that Dr. Light is British and Wily German? As far as we can ascertain, Dr. Light is American. Mega Man 8 clearly shows he lives in the United States, which is reinforced a ton of corroborating evidence. As for Wily, although the character is clearly inspired by Albert Einstein, and has a totenkopf motif going on, we really have no way of knowing his nationality, as it's never stated in the games.

Yeah, I took out the nationalities and someone behind an anonymous IP "undid" my revisions. I'm taking them out again now, because it's stupid and unsourced. Henryrothschild (talk) 06:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Robot Masters article[edit]

I think there should probably be a seperate article for all the Robot Masters, since only the MegaMan 1 (and Powered Up) masters appear, and listing them all would take up too much space. It can probably also include the Mavericks from the X series if you feel like it. Wonchop (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the Robot Masters are important in the series. They deserve their own page. User:Looney Guy —Preceding undated comment added 16:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC).

Quint's original CD entry[edit]

Quint's bio linked to some translation guide for Rockman & Forte on GameFAQs that stated he wasn't a remodeled Mega Man. I checked the original SNES game, and it turns out that the translation in the GameFAQs guide is completely wrong, so bad it seems to be mostly made up on the spot. Here is a correct translation:

???? QUINT

A Rockman who came with Dr. Wily back from the future, then got remodeled. His weapon is the Sakugarne.

"This will be your destiny as well"

Strength: Knows the future

Weakness: Suffers from jet lag (this is somewhat of a pun, the joke should be obvious)

Likes: Digging pitfalls

Dislikes: Time paradoxes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.129.203.20 (talk) 06:01, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Where are all the Robot Masters?[edit]

I see only the robot masters from MM1 (+ 2 I've never heard of). Where are the Robot Masters from MM 2-9?Serendipodous 08:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Stardroids[edit]

"Unlike any bosses Stardroids is the only one have a lot of attacks which is very unperdition."

Could someone please correct this part of the entry? It's very badly translated and I can't make heads or tails of it or I'd attempt my own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.212.123 (talk) 08:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Rush[edit]

Recently, Destructoid conducted an interview with the former Capcom producer Keiji Inafune, and he actually confirms that the character Rush was NOT based on the Canadian Band of the same name, but on a game called "Rush & Crash". Also, he mentions that when spoken, the name sounds like Lassie the dog character. Here's the source if you don't believe me: [1] 99.118.67.58 (talk) 22:26, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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