Talk:Edmond Hall

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The present article is wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Apart from the obvious bias in the writing, this is just one example of the text - "The entire band had a blast during that time." Can someone with a basic knowledge of the subject matter, and some Wiki editing skills, please try to improve the situation. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

The gentleman who thinks that this was written with obvious bias certainly has his right to his opinion. Thie article was written by a German author on the life of Edmond Hall after his death. How can the life of an individual be biased, particularly when he had no input to the article? Just about everything in the article is true with, what I believe, are severe omissions. Edmond was the fifth child of Edward Hall, SR. His siblings were Priscilla, 1893; Moretta, 1895; Viola, 1897, Robert, 1899, Clarence, 1903, Edward, Jr, 1905 and Herbert 1907. There was a daughter botn after Herbert who died at birth. Moretta Hall was legally blind, being born with any irises and yet made her living by sewing. Robert Hall lived in three centuries dying in 2003 in a Catholic Nursing Home in Chef Menteur Highway in New Orleans. All of Edmond's siblings played music including the first born three daughters,Robert, Herbert, Edward, Sr, and Clarence,Sr. who was also a clarinetist. Clarence helped start and was an original member of Dave Bartholomew's band. Dave Bartholomet write most of Fat's Dominos songs, Clarence played with Dave for more than twenty years until his health faded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

This is much better than any other wiki article I've read - the format just makes sense and doesn't strive for an unnecessarily academic layout. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:21, 14 July 2011 (UTC).

The article is very instructive. It explains why the best Louis Armstrong's All Stars, may be the best Jazz Band ever, had to go apart. June 16, 2012, Tommy Schibli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommy Schibli (talkcontribs) 00:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I added all the references for this article and did some work on the over all text trying to take the "overly promotional tone" out. I also shortened some paragraphs where information might have come across as "unimportant" to some. Strange to me, as Wikipedia is supposed to be THE platform for education and knowledge. Why not give people a life in detail if it's possible as it is in this rare instance. I hope the changes did improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rx7 3rotors (talkcontribs) 07:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The information in this entry is not sourced properly. From which text did each claim or bit of information specifically come from? In other words, why are there no footnote markers? If I want to verify a certain claim or fact, where does one go? This entry is not academically written and seems as if it is full of rumors and "stories" heard through the grapevine. Plus, too many pictures--this shouldn't be presented as if it were a grade school report. I can't trust any of the information that's been written about Edmond Hall in the current form that it is presented here. (talk) 04:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Notes on this article[edit]

An article like this presents certain problems, and not simply in grammar and spelling. Where to begin?

This long article needed a lot of work, and it still does need work. The article is (or was) a year by year account of Hall's life. Sometimes it was a month by month and week by week account. Information and detail accrued endlessly, it seemed, and yet the flatness made it difficult to know which parts were important enough to keep, especially if an editor knows nothing about Hall's life. Certain events were obviously significant: starting his career, becoming a leader, recording as a leader, working with Armstrong, his time at Cafe Society and at Condon's, his visits to Ghana.

The article was strewn with pictures. Unfortunately, even at 300 pixels, many were too small to see well. I kept what I thought were the better ones where Hall's face is visible. Other pictures, while interesting, were of people other than Hall. The same criticism can be made here as of the rest of the article, that there is simply too much. It should be said that the writer of this article seems to have spent an impressive amount of time and effort, but not every move Hall made needs to be included.

It seems that someone read a biography of Hall and followed the timeline of the book, using that book as the main source. The text contained sentences such as "1961 Hall goes on tour" and nothing more before moving on to the next item in the itinerary. I don't know what to make of the long list of references, nor do I know what to do with it. Few citations occur in the text. The casual but reverent tone often meant POV violations and text that is inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
Vmavanti (talk) 18:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)