Talk:Edo society

Kanji Form

The usual kanji form of shinōkōshō is 士農工商. This article uses 侍, which also means samurai, but gives the wrong impression. Perhaps 士 should be used instead. JimBreen (talk) 07:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

This article reads like a middle-schooler's paper. Is there a template to indicate that fact? 82.61.181.10 (talk) 15:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Merge

This article needs some major revsion to make it both up to standards and historically accurate. Once it is corrected it will be very similar to the article Four divisions of society. I think they should be merged together. I will go ahead and do this, but if there are any objections or other thoughts I would like to hear them first. Orange43 (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think it's a great idea. I like the Four Divisions article, I realy think someone did a nice job in organizing the four classes, as well as providing backround inormation. So, my for my part, I say we merg this into that article. --Ph0kin (talk) 22:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

After making this suggestion I ended up creating and writing a new article, Edo society, to cover more than just the theoretical divisions of society. Most of the information in this (Feudal Japan hierarchy) article is actually more relevant to the Edo period, which could be either be considered late feudal or early early modern and thereore the article may be misnamed. The our divisions of society artcle is esentially a third article with much the same information as well. Personally, I think the Four you aint nothing but a hound dog be either expanded as being specific to the theretical model, if the amount of information warrants it, or eliminate and this article should be rewritten to cover soiety during the distinctly different high medeval period. I would also then support renaming this article to Feudal Japan Society, or somthing similar, to show it's broader scope. I'd like a second opinion, however, to make sure I'm not too biased becaue I wrote one of the articles. Orange43 (talk) 17:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Your Edo society article is far superior to this. This has virtually no redeeming value, so unless there are objections, I'll just redirect this one there outright. Jpatokal (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

The Japanese civilization is the civilization different from Asia. ( Huntington's "major civilizations" ) 　Merge is not appropriate at all. KuroOolong (talk) 12:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

A pyramid?

I've always felt it is a bit deceiving to show Edo society as a pyramid, because in fact the peasants (farmers) were over 80% of the population. A pyramid seems to imply that merchants and craftsmen were more numerous than farmers. --Westwind273 (talk) 02:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, shinōkōshō 士農工商 in Japan did not represent hierarchy of the class but represented a social status categorization.Samurai are ranked higher in the class hierarchy, but there is no relationship between upper and lower, ruler and ruled for other social statuses 農(farmer) 工(craftsman) 商(merchant).

これまでよく使われていた「士農工商」や「四民平等」といった記述がなくなったことについて，理由を教えてください。（東京書籍小学校（平成27年度から）] JapaneseBunny (talk) 17:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

This page is completely wrong

This page is completely wrong. Such a hierarchical chart dividing peasants, craftsmen, and merchants into classes is based on an old academic theory from decades ago, and it has become clear in recent years that peasants (hyakushō), craftsmen, and merchants (chōnin) were equal in Japan. Such hierarchical charts have already been removed from Japanese textbooks.[1][2][3]