Talk:Eileen Flynn (politician)
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[edit]Ní Fhloinn styles herself as" Eileen Ní Fhloinn" on her Twitter account, a venue where she is free to give her own name according to her own authority. The Wikipedia article uses the English version of her name in contradiction to Ní Fhloinn herself. I propose that the article be renamed to suit the subject's own choice. — O'Dea (talk) 05:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I had the name she actually uses in the title of the original article but someone moved it. AugusteBlanqui (talk) 07:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- @AugusteBlanqui: I suggest you move the article to rename it to Eileen Ní Fhloinn with an edit summary saying something like "Official name: see talk page" or "Actual name used by subject of article herself: see talk page."
- I went to move it myself just now but discovered that I couldn't because I'm using a mobile phone. The move option is only displayed for desktop users.
- The editor who renamed the article (Sheila1988) cited as her reason "more standard name" however this is not true as major Irish media use the version that Eileen Ní Fhloinn herself uses, as demonstrated by the following sample articles in the Irish Times, the Irish Independent, the Irish Examiner, the TheJournal.ie, and the Donegal News. — O'Dea (talk) 15:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- She is listed in the Seanad debates as Eileen Flynn [1], and also on RTE as Flynn [2]. The Irish Times in 2020 uses Flynn in a recent interview with her [3]. Perhaps she has recently reverted to using the English form of her name. Its not clear what form of her name she uses now, so I don't think there should be any page moves until it is discussed further. Spleodrach (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's clear that she uses the Irish version in her self-authored TheJournal.ie article, linked above, and at her Twitter account. Her choice obviously has more authority than any bystanders. — O'Dea (talk) 18:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- No, it's not clear at all actually. Watching the Seanad video proceedings, she was introduced as Senator Eileen Flynn. She didn't correct the chair, or say her name was Ni Fhloinn. Her twitter handle is Love1Solidarity, so twitter is not much use there! The Journal article is from 2018, as is the IT article you linked. All recent articles use Flynn. Ghits also returns many more hits for Flynn. Spleodrach (talk) 19:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Her self-written name in Twitter is not Love1Solidarity: that is the URL of her account. Clearly, her chosen name on Twitter is Eileen Ni Fhloinn, q.v. Whatever about 2018, the personal Twitter account is in current daily use, under that name. — O'Dea (talk) 04:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- No, it's not clear at all actually. Watching the Seanad video proceedings, she was introduced as Senator Eileen Flynn. She didn't correct the chair, or say her name was Ni Fhloinn. Her twitter handle is Love1Solidarity, so twitter is not much use there! The Journal article is from 2018, as is the IT article you linked. All recent articles use Flynn. Ghits also returns many more hits for Flynn. Spleodrach (talk) 19:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's clear that she uses the Irish version in her self-authored TheJournal.ie article, linked above, and at her Twitter account. Her choice obviously has more authority than any bystanders. — O'Dea (talk) 18:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- She is listed in the Seanad debates as Eileen Flynn [1], and also on RTE as Flynn [2]. The Irish Times in 2020 uses Flynn in a recent interview with her [3]. Perhaps she has recently reverted to using the English form of her name. Its not clear what form of her name she uses now, so I don't think there should be any page moves until it is discussed further. Spleodrach (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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