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A fact from El Yucateco appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that El Yucateco was the first Mexican brand of hot sauce sold in the United States?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/El Yucateco.

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More Info Needed

Started this page, but only so much information is out, so could use some additions if anyone has any. (Kelis98 (talk) 18:32, 6 August 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 23:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that CBS Detroit called El Yucateco "the one hot sauce you can't live without"? Source: [1]~~
- ALT1: ~~... that El Yucateco was named the official hot sauce of World Food Championships?~~ Source: [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Lebeck
- Comment: ~~QPQ coming tomorrow.~~ Done!

Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/El Yucateco; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Interesting article, fine 5* expansion on good sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I prefer ALT1, thinking the "official hot sauce" sounds tempting. - I'd place the fact about the varieties in the body, with the source, and shorten it for the lead. - Your turn for Le Vin herbé, btw, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt and CurryTime7-24: Possible concern about a promotional hook WP:DYKSG#F10. What do you both think? Lightburst (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching that. I struck ALT0, but kept ALT1 as its promo quality is more ambiguous. If needed, the article material may allow for one or two more ALTs that are not inadvertently promotional. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To me, ALT1 speaks about a past fact, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, but the wording in the source could also imply that its status is ongoing. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt and CurryTime7-24: Please let me know when the hook is settled. Lightburst (talk) 15:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me until some time late this afternoon (PDT) to clear this up and provide some new ALTs on top of that. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:10, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: it has been a few weeks and I wonder if we are still working on this? Lightburst (talk) 17:41, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lightburst: Very sorry. I've had work pile on me this month. Without further ado, here are a couple of new ALTs that should mitigate concerns about product promotion:

ALT2: ... that El Yucateco was the first Mexican brand of hot sauce sold in the United States? Source: [3] "A mediados de los 70, las salsas de El Yucateco fueron las primeras en ingresar al mercado estadounidense." (Translation: "By the mid-70s, the El Yucateco sauces were the first to enter the American market."
ALT3: ... that hot sauce maker El Yucateco was the target of labor disputes in 2018 and 2023? (Source: 2018 dispute: [4]; 2023 dispute: [5]) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:00, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: please check out the new hooks. Lightburst (talk) 14:00, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - I like ALT2 much better, because it specifies "Mexican", - and labour disputes are nothing specific to this company. Striking ALT1 per the concerns, however, if you limit it to the past by some year or range, I'd be open to reconsider. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]