Talk:Elmyr de Hory

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This article appears to be riddled with inaccuracies, specifically in the sections involving Fernand Legros. Roger Peyrfitte's biography of Legros "Tableaux de Chasse" ^[1] ,presents De Hory's relationship with Legros in an entirely different, far less sympathetic light. According to the large Interpol file on De Hory, he was a con man, an inveterate, possibly pathological liar, convicted of a variety of crimes, forgery not the least of them, and the many different stories he has woven about himself and on which this article appears to be based have, on investigation, proven to be simply untrue, particularly where his relationship with Legros is concerned, where De Hory was in fact an aggressor and Legros the victim. The article should be deleted or thoroughly revised. The current contributors appear to have too many personal axes to grind.

KitMarlowe3 (talk) 05:35, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Peyrfitte, R., "Tableaux de Chasse", Albin Michel, Paris, 1976, ISBN 2-226-0026-6

Homosexuality

This article seems to be phrased in a very anti-gay light.

"developed homosexual habits" ? Sounds like a drug addiction or something.

"suspected of the murder of a British homosexual" ? How about "suspected of the murder of a British man?" This seems written to make the whole thing sound sordid and dirty.

Faked fakes?

When I read the final few words of the article -- the claim that fakes of fakes are now being produced -- I was at first inclined to suggest removal until/unless a suitable source for the claim was referenced. But then I realized that if ever there was, or is to be, an article in which a need for sources could be dismissed as not in keeping with the subject or its best treatment, surely the story of this master faker is among them. Publius3 05:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't add this section, but the description of this can be sourced to the "Almost True" documentary. ivan 02:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

His birth name

It seems reasonably clear from Knut W. Jorfald's documentary that "Elmyr"s birth name was Elmyra Horthy. I think the same documentary gives his likely birth date as 1905. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.145.162 (talk) 20:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

copies/reproductions

The article makes repeated use of terms like "copies of originals" and "reproductions." In the "Almost True" documentary, Clifford Irving and Mark Forgy insist strenuously that de Hory was not a "copyist" but rather copied the style of other painters (and then may or may not have signed their names). I'm not sure if there is dispute on whether he ever did actually copy an existing painting, but even if that is the case it seems like the distinction and the dispute should be brought up. ivan 02:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Peyrfitte, R., "Tableaux de Chasse", Albin Michel, Paris, 1976, ISBN 2-226-0026-6

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