Talk:Flaming Moe

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Cultural references[edit]

Question: how can this episode, made in 1991, be an homage (i.e. a respectful appreciative implicit reference) to a film that was only made 17 years later? I can understand it referencing the person of Harvey Milk, but not the film, as is stated in the current version of this article. 2A02:1810:398E:6000:9174:4080:601:DC24 (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may "know" that such-and-such references so-and-so but if you don't have a reliable source that says so don't add it to the article. I Want My GayTV (talk) 22:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay when you look it this way, then you should also remove the reference to "Milk", because there is no reliable source to proof that there is a reference to Harvey Milk in this episodes. The internetsite in reference number 4 which is given, has also no source for the claim that this episode contains a reference to Milk. So if one takes these methods of referencing you should get a written document from the creators of this episode where they tell us what cultural references they include in this episode. If I write an scientific essay about a topic concerning the Nationalsocialist regime in Germany in 1939-1945, I usually do not have to mention that Adolf Hitler was the "Reichskanzler", because it is common knowledge, unless I write this essay for small children. Using the own brain to establish an obvious connection between two things is wrong here or what?

Of course I could write: "The picture of "Tom of Shelbyville" which Moe hung up in tha bar SEEMS TO BE a reference to the gay comic art of Tom of Finland." and give a link to art of Tom of Finland.

While, as far as I remember, the name "Harvey Milk" or any part of it was never mentioned in this Simpsons episode, two parts of the name "Tom of Finland" were mentioned when Moe hung up the gay group picture and Smithers said the sentence with "Tom of Finland". So we have the elements "Tom" and "of" and actually we have a thrid element, the sequence: He says "TOM OF Shelbyville" and not "Shelbyville of Tom" or "of Tom Shelbyville" or "of Shelbyville Tom". I gues it si clear what I mean. When you additionally take a look at the art of Tom of Finland (which I linked there) it is clear that there is a connection between "Tom of Shelbyville" or better said the "Tom of Shelbyville"-picture which Moe hung up and "Tom of Finland", the gay comic art from "Tom of Finland" aka Touko Laaksonen.

If you do not accept it, then you also have to remove the cultural reference to "Harvey Milk", because you can argue that there is no reliable source for the claim that there is a reference to Milk. The source given here in this article, does not have any source itself, there it just says: "[..]when Moe starts pulling a Milk and running for office." http://www.avclub.com/articles/fartbreak-hotelflaming-moecrawl-spaceand-im-joyce,49924/ Where is the source?

Well but some people still believe that Berlin wall exists, so you can continue ignoring obvious facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.97.57.137 (talk) 16:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Why was my edit about Mr. Burns' middlenames removed? I added a source that states that Hitler's father was called Schicklegruber, since I'm not familiar with wikipedias editing system this was actually quite a bit of trouble for me, so it pisses me off that it was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.217.11.168 (talk) 11:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative title[edit]

Is it true that this episode is called "Moeback Mountain" in the German dub? --The_Iconoclast (talk) 09:53, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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