Talk:Fraszki

A fact from Fraszki appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Jan Kochanowski's Fraszki is a 16th-century collection of almost 300 poems, ranging from anecdotes and epitaphs to obscenities and erotica?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 17:09, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Title page of Fraszki by Jan Kochanowski, 1590

... that Jan Kochanowski's Fraszki is a 16th-century collection of almost 300 poems, ranging from anecdotes and epitaphs to obscenities and erotica? Source: https://literat.ug.edu.pl/autors/kochan.htm and https://books.google.com/books?id=R-MkT9vavwIC&q=The+History+of+Polish+Literature
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yosemite Valley Railroad

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 28 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fraszki; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I'll get this one 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 02:59, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: QPQ is a currently active review, and therefore, not usable. I am willing to wait till it's wrapped up but would appreciate a ping if you still intend on using it. Page is new enough, meets length requirements, hook is interesting. I am having difficultly accessing where the "obscene" part of this comes from, it is questionably in the article itself and I cannot find it in the sourcing. This may be bordering on WP:PUFFERY but its an admittedly minor point (perhaps adding FN 4 to the sourcing would resolve this). Some clarification would be ideal. Image appears to be in order, no other concerns. Giving a customary @Piotrus:. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 03:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Etriusus, Obsene erotica is a combination of the terms obscenities and erotica from the sources quoted in the article. Could change it to "obscenities and erotica" but I don't think the meaning changes. I am a bt unclear about what puffery is there to be removed, and what clarifications are needed, but if you can be more specific, I'll see if anything can be rephrased further. As for QPQ, yes, I'd like to use it, as I intend to finish it. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: I changed the hook to "obscenities and erotica", feel free to change back if you disagree. With that change you can disregard my PUFFERY comment. My concern was that 'obscene erotica' is a much more loaded term than just 'erotica' and I was looking for something more concrete in the sourcing (i.e. the exact phrase 'obscene erotic' or something analogous). I understand where my confusion came from, but the slight modification made resolves this. Ping me whenever the QPQ is done and I am fine with passing this. Excellent work as always. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 04:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: Any update? 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 20:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Etriusus, The creator/nominator for Template:Did you know nominations/Yosemite Valley Railroad hasn't replied, so that nomination is on hold. I don't see why it should affect the status of my nomination, however. I'll finish my QPQ if the other editor ever comes back to their DYK and pings me. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:16, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Etriusus and Piotrus: I have to clarify something about QPQs: a review used for a QPQ need not be finished before it is used as a QPQ. Rather, it is only necessary that a full check of the DYK criteria is done, even if the nomination is still ongoing and issues still have to be fixed. In this case, the Yosemite nomination can be used as a QPQ as, while it is true that the review is ongoing, a full review of the article has already been done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:58, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Narutolovehinata5, thanks - that's what I thought. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Understood, passed. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 18:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]