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A fact from Gallery (New Orleans) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in New Orleans, galleries differ from balconies because they feature supporting posts?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gallery (New Orleans).

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 01:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iron galleries in New Orleans

... that in New Orleans, galleries (sample pictured) differ from balconies in that galleries are wider and have supporting posts? Source: https://nola.gov/nola/media/HDLC/Guidelines/09-Porches-Galleries.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Holly Ringland

Created by Z22 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gallery (New Orleans); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - The linked document does not explicitly state that galleries are wider than balconies at the stated page number.
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Need some source clarification. Sounder Bruce 02:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source does not explicitly say they are wider but it says the widths cover the entire sidewalk in comparison to 3-4 feet for balconies. If we should not imply by using general knowledge that sidewalk is 4+ feet, then we can have another hook like:

ALT1: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) differ from balconies in that galleries extend over the sidewalks and have supporting posts?

Or something else that you may want to suggest. Z22 (talk) 05:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new hook is clunky and has an unnecessary repeat of the word "gallery". Upon a second look at the article, there's quite a bit of copyediting that is needed; passages like "the fashion had moved on with the time to catch up with the modern architecture" are really hard to parse. Sounder Bruce 05:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it easier to read just to say something like these instead?

ALT2a: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured), unlike balconies, feature supporting posts?

ALT2b: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) distinguish themselves from balconies through the addition of supporting posts?

ALT2c: ... that in New Orleans, galleries (example pictured) differ from balconies because they feature supporting posts?

Or you are thinking that we need something completely different? Any suggestions are appreciated. Z22 (talk) 02:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I had some edits to improve readability. Let me know if you still spot the parts that require more work. Thanks. Z22 (talk) 03:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: Not sure if there are things that we should still improve. Let me know your feedback. Thanks. Z22 (talk) 19:19, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's still in pretty rough shape, with passages such as "to support the Confederate", "The later is notable", "The destruction also happened", and "left the city unscratched" all needing to be fixed up among other examples. I don't think this is suitable unless a full copyedit is completed. Sounder Bruce 07:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your patience on this. I made a few revisions, really putting in the effort to edit the whole page. Not just the things you mentioned. I tackled the entire piece. I think it should be in good shape now, but if you're not feeling it, we could use another pair of eyes from another editor to help with copyediting? Z22 (talk) 22:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: Is this ready to be promoted? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 02:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article reads much better now.

Approving ALT2c as the better hook of the trio. Sounder Bruce