Talk:Gef
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[edit]This article seems fairly concise and interesting, but there's also Gef the Talking Mongoose, the only apparent difference being the capitilisation - should be merged into this one, I assume (but I don't know how to do that).
-My personal favorite line is “Turn on the bloody gramophone!” I don’t know all but you can find some funny lines!
Also, I think someone should find a way to work in some of the wackier stuff Gef "said" in the article, like "I am the fifth dimension. I am the eighth wonder of the world, I can split the atom." :) --ElectricSkrill 23:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- I redirected that one to this one, since "the talking mongoose" is a description rather than a title/name and so shouldn't be capitalized, I think ... I'm not absolutely certain that the redirect shouldn't have been the other way around.
- And if you put in any details, please include links to reputable sources to back it up, since that's the sort of stuff which can invite vandalism that's hard for other editors to tell from the real thing. - DavidWBrooks 01:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've decided to pull the "possible hoax" flag from this article. Bizarre as this story sounds, it has been documented extensively in books and on websites (I get 867 ghits). Doesn't mean it's true, of course, just that the WP article is not itself a hoax. As stated in WP:HOAX, an article about a likely or possible hoax, perpetrated elsewhere, is not itself an attempt to hoax. --Pleather 14:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Definitely, some of his more obscure "quotes" are the best in my opinion. Spr.ing peeper (talk) 14:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
References
[edit]I have added some references to the article, though I’m not sure if they are adequate to remove the sources tag, so I have left it in place. I take issue with a few bits of the article, particularly “no one other than the Irvings ever heard Gef speak “ – which is not the case, quite a few people heard “Gef’s voice.” Also “poltergeists are believed to be pathological liars,” and “rare, cases of animals such as dogs and cats allegedly having the ability to speak,” - love to see some sources on those two.--Tascio 21:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed the tag (having just come across this article) as the refs you've added seem good enough to me. You might like to have a look at Wikipedia:Footnotes, which tells you how to create automatic linking notes. --Blisco 23:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you, I have just changed the article over to the referencing method you suggested, it should certainly make adding further references a lot easier.--Tascio 11:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Where is the house?
[edit]Anyone know where the house is? It might be an interesting addition to the article. A photo of it, too. --208.65.188.23 (talk) 04:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
The house was demolished some time ago. Some evocative photos of it are however available through the usual picture libraries.
The exact location is Lat 54.170485 Lon -4.708987. The house was demolished and all the rubble removed, so that now nature has reclaimed the site there is absolutely nothing to differentiate it from the surrounding pretty desolate moorland apart from the well; it is a hard one hour's climb from the nearest village. I don't know how to add a map at this reference, perhaps someone wizzier than me could do it? 81.178.169.154 (talk) 23:10, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Is the song "Eighth Wonder" notable enough for the reference section? It's a song about Gef.
[edit](This section was blank, but I decided to respond to the question in its title)
The guidelines on trivia and popular culture may be suggestive here, but at least the song's entire topic coincides with that of this article. On the other hand, I have deleted this from Media:
- In the Hellboy story Hellboy: The Right Hand of Doom , The Nature of the Beast Hellboy is summoned to slay a dragon, and comments that he has seen a flying chair and a talking moongoose, but he didn't believe in dragons.
I don't think such an off-hand remark has any significance to either Gef or Hellboy. Lusanaherandraton (talk) 19:29, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Having myself only discovered the talking mongoose a few dozen minutes ago (via an unsourced reference in the NYTimes to the BBC "Listener" and some enjoyable Wiki-surfing therefrom); and having only discovered a/the Hellboy movie channel-surfing a few months ago -- not bad; I personally am sorry not any longer to see the pretty clearly non-random reference in the Hellboy (I'm taking the original editor at hisr word) comic linked to its likely source. I've now just spent a few minutes with Hellboy: The Right Hand of Doom#The Nature of the Beast, which I take to cover the section of the comic where the reference came, on the thought that at least over there the source of the reference would be appropriate. Now I see you've opined it doesn't belong there, either.
- I happen also this weekend to have introduced Rikki Tikki Tavi to my 9-year-old daughter as a reading opportunity. Alas (we live apart most of the time, I don't like to call ..., yet, maybe) I don't now have the volume here to confirm, and don't recall, and don't find from Wikipedia there whether that other probably better-known fictional mongoose actually talks. I've read the trivia article. Can you think of another "talking mongoose"? As a quickie, the first two pages (20+-) of Google results for the phrase all refer to Gef (and yeh! there are 3,530,000 results). Yet you would have someone who say had followed an interest in Hellboy or in the particular comic trade paperback or whatever to our good Wikipedia NOT to find a link to the BBC-changing book-generating thang (t)here.
- I'm a big believer in education. And I've often thought of comic books as "entry-level reading" among other good things. (Less-censored by people like what was his name? the Lord who wrangled with Gef('s creator or documentor) (which creator or documentor we can thank for fighting the job-threat he endured, the courts found, from the Lord and his "friends") (with the Lord in turn being great-uncle+- of Britain's new Prime Minister, one finds) (at a time -- those '30s -- when the good Kipling himself still loomed large) is another good attribute of the comics, I'd venture.)
- So, all told, I find your edit -- particularly by extending it to Hellboy, but I think over here, too -- to be really unfortunate. While not being overly heavy, overall, I hope. What say? Swliv (talk) 23:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Lovecraft
[edit]I doubt very much that there is any connection between Gef and Lovecraft's story "Dreams in the Witch House." Lovecraft wrote "Dreams" in 1932. He never visited the Isle of Man, or anywhere in the British Isles. Would an American writer writing in 1932 have had access to information about Gef? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.208.244.20 (talk) 14:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Is there any basis for asserting it is 'Jeff'? The Irvings always spelt it GEF, NOT Jeff or Geof(frey) - I had always assumed it was pronounced with a hard 'g' as in 'go'. This would only be resolved if there was a recording of an Irving or perhaps Price actually enunciating the word. 78.141.194.167 (talk) 22:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Rikki Tikki Tavi
[edit]Rikk Tikki Tavi is not a "talking mongoose". He talks to other animals, but he can't speak to people. I will remove this. Aredbeardeddwarf (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Why has no one linked to Manx categories or IOM WikiProject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:140E:F303:1:2:6DEC:9E74 (talk) 11:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
External link added
[edit]Hi, I added a link to a podcast about Gef but it was reverted. I'm not sure if it was accidentally removed because of the vandalism that followed (by another editor) or if the link doesn't belong on this page. I listened to the podcast and thought it added a lot of information that would be useful to someone who is interested in Gef. https://www.constantpodcast.com/episodes/gef If it is relevant, feel free to add it back in. Thanks Commontater (talk) 08:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]in the song " eighth wonder" BY lemon demon, it is all about gef the Mongoose 66.29.215.9 (talk) 23:53, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is already mentioned in the article. Belbury (talk) 10:57, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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