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Caragonne's death seems ironic

In 1993, George Caragonne had written an anti-drug story for Marvel Comics, which had been featured in Captain America: The Drug Wars #1 (cover-dated April, 1994; released in February of that year).

In "Druglords"--the story Caragonne had written--Captain America, Silhouette (who had been partially paralyzed, yet remained determined to fight), and the New Warriors (Firestar, Marvel Boy, Namorita, Night Thrasher, Nova, Speedball) battle drug dealers who were literally out of this world.

In 1995 (and ironically?), Caragonne had turned to drugs himself. He was a heavy (figuratively and literally) cocaine user. His comic-book career had a taken a turn for the worst.

Despite his friends' best efforts to intervene, Caragonne committed suicide inside a New York City (Manhattan) hotel. He jumped from the 45th floor inside the hotel.

As Caragonne took the fatal plunge, he was listening to a cassette tape containing theme songs from various James Bond films. (Ironically, the cassette tape may have contained Paul McCartney & Wings' Live and Let Die, Rita Coolidge's All Time High, Duran Duran's A View to a Kill, and Gladys Knight's Licence to Kill.)

Caragonne landed on a buffet table, surrounded by guests. None of the guests had been injured. But many of the guests--especially the children--had suffered emotional trauma, and required years of treatment because they had witnessed Caragonne's suicide. Jeff S (talk) 19:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whether something is "ironic" is really a matter of opinion. Can you cite a source that described it as irony? DS (talk) 14:42, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source: https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Captain-America-Drug-War/Full?id=168960#comment-6090654110

The first comment is...

Irony: The writer of the second tale George Caragonne became an out-of-control cocaine addict, and killed himself a little over a year after this anti-drug comic was released. Jeff S (talk) 04:13, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. Can you cite a source that meets Wikipedia's criteria for reliability and which described it as irony? So, for instance, a comment posted on ReadComicOnline would not count. DS (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. That was the only source I know of. I'm sorry.Jeff S (talk) 01:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay,but I hope you understand why it means that the Wikipedia article can't call Caragonne's death ironic. DS (talk) 12:43, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]