Talk:George Weller

Disease X

Listening to NPR and found out about "Disease X" as reported by Weller. No mention on Wikipedia at all. Perhaps we can include a better coverage of Weller's actual reporting. --MarsInSVG (talk) 13:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Censored again ?

George Weller's report on Nagasaki is no longer available at http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/specials/0506/0617weller.html and I am unable to find another copy elsewhere on the web. I get no reply from Mainichi for the moment.

I added a corrected link to an article that contains excerpts from the censored stories. A book coming out this year will contain the original stories. skywriter 14:56, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Confiscated

Any source of the claim that the article were confiscated? CNN claims he(Weller) submitted it to censorship himself. Maybe that's an expression for the same thing... --abach 15:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) Considered fixed --abach 14:27, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Question to User:Bcorr from User:Skywriter

Noting your introduction

I have been a Wikipedian since June 2003, an administrator since December 2003, and a bureaucrat since August 2004. I am also a member of the Mediation Committee and am a former chair of that committee.

I am wondering how the following appears as your contribution to the article on George Waller.

Revision as of 13:21, 12 February 2006 Bcorr (Talk | contribs)

(?Life & career - copyedit, misspellings, as per Boston Globe ref)

added the following: The couple had one child (and Weller also had a second child with another woman[2])

The couple had two childs, a boy, Anthony, and a girl, Ann Tagge,

Thanks. skywriter 03:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I made this edit to George Weller (not "Waller") based on this Boston Globe article on errors in Wikipedia. If you have a citation that proves this wrong please tell me what it is, as you clearly have a lot of information on Weller -- but this is not an attempt to claim that he did something wrong by "having a child out of wedlock.". I will note that your use of "two childs" for "two children" is exactly what the Boston Globe cited as an error in the article:

Wikipedia says: In 1946 he met Charlotte Ebner [sic], when the two were in a group of correspondents held for three weeks in Manchuria by the advancing communist Chinese army. They married two years later. . . . The couple had two childs [sic], a boy, Anthony, and a girl, Ann Tagge, and were married for 42 years."

In fact: Weller's two children had different mothers. His wife was Charlotte Ebener.

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 14:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

(The words "two childs" are not mine. They are taken from the article history.) Would you clarify by quoting what there is in that Boston Globe article that refers anywhere to Weller? I read the article and don't see a mention. Thanks. skywriter 14:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I see the link is corrected in your comment but the link was wrong in the Wiki article on Weller because it linked to the main article on Jimmy Wales and not the sidebar to which you now link. Too bad the Globe writer doesn't source what he calls this Weller "fact." I'll correct the article link to the Globe but the evidence is thin, if the unsourced Globe statement is all there is. skywriter 15:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Article Length

This is interesting. However, at 14% longer than the article on Albert Einstein, it seems to be too long. Wanderer57 (talk) 23:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ann weller tagge

All Ann weller tagge's contributions are factually accurate, relevant for an adequate understanding, and accompanied by clear references.Ann weller tagge (talk) 23:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC) As a service to readers Ann weller tagge content is separated (e.g. triple spacing) from that of other users.Ann weller tagge (talk) 14:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Re Splitsection 3Nagasaki to page George Weller: Nagasaki: Certain claims in connection with George Weller's journalistic work in the Nagasaki area in 1945 are inconsistent with many reliable sources. This gives rise to a significant journalistic issue brought to light in this Wikipedia article.Ann weller tagge (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)The new separate (from the George Weller general) article would retain all current text + references in order to bring out the truth fully on this serious issue.Ann weller tagge (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• What is this kinky repetition of your signature for? And why the stilted use of the third person? No barnstars please - I am a dull grey person as far as Wikipedia is concerned. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 22:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

slimming down

I recommend removing some of the main length to a subarticle, or altogether if simply a detailed recounting of the text of a book. +sj + 21:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I've moved the detailed Nagasaki info to First Into Nagasaki. Note that that article is now about the book, whereas much of the txt is about /others/ who were early into Nagasaki... some of that is interesting research, but I don't know where it goes in WP. Please help clean it up there before remerging any of it into this article. In particular, please make that text more neutral in tone. +sj + 21:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Suggest

Without actually reading Ann's mass of text, I suggest:

• Ann Weller Tagge should create her own website using the text from this article. (If she ain't got one already, try one of the wikis with no editorial control.) She must acknowledge that the text came from Wikipedia (even though she wrote it!) and licence it under the GFDL. I am sure that a link from this article to her site will be totally acceptable.
• Someone with no COI should savagely prune this article (I suggest 32 kbytes would be an absolute max). We certainly do not need the lyrics of a jazz hit for example!
• Ann should restrict her edits here to any corrections of fact.

— RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 22:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the article a fair bit for balance, and reorganized parts to make them more parallel with one another. Someone should do some independent research into his life and include more basic biographical info about his works' reception, his status as a writer and journalist, and the like. +sj + 07:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Removed from main

This info about the house and will are not notable or appropriate for the article.

His house and will

NB: this section was added by an editor who seems to be one of the beneficiaries Villa Veller

This place is also known as Casa Delfino and as Villa sul Mare.

George Weller's Will was probated in Edgartown, Martha's Vineyard. [3] Anthony Weller vs. Ann Tagge and Fleet Bank [now Bank of America](the Trustee fiduciary), . Massachusetts Appeals Court judgment against Anthony Weller. Decision (handed down 9/28/2006) at precydent.com; briefs and record appendix at Westlaw.

References

Original research & argument removed from article

The following is removed from this article because it reads like original research and an argument with the author rather than an encyclopedic presentation of facts derived from secondary sources. Skywriter (talk) 19:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Whilst two articles are presented in Weller's War as "Passed By Censors, but was never published.", different to claim of "never published", parts of both articles had indeed been published in 1945. "Passed By Censors, but was never published." is not accurate in view of the fact that this content so labeled is found published in George Weller's newspaper the Chicago Daily News and also additionally in other newspapers, subscribers to the Chicago Daily News Foreign Service. Firstly: for previously published parts of Weller's War "Bomb's Fatal Effects Continue" p.608-9, see prior publication in Chicago Daily News "Late Deaths Broke Atom News to Nips" August 31 1945. Secondly: for previously published parts of Weller's War "Tokyo in Ruins" pp. 609-12, see prior publication in Chicago Daily News "These Were 2 Worst Of Tokyo Fire Raids" + "Be Patient With Us, Jap Paper Pleads" September 1 1945 and "Jap Girls Flee Yank Invaders" August 31 1945. Thirdly: as well, Daily Telegraph (London, England) published September 1 1945 "Nothing To Buy In Tokyo's Smashed Stores" a page one lengthy article duplicative in the main of content pp.609-12 in Weller's War as "Passed By Censors, but was never published." Fourthly: accompanied by headshot photo of Bostonian George Weller with underlined leader "George Weller in Tokyo" and double column headline "Liberal Newspapers Aver Japs Want to Cooperate" plus subhead section "Worst B-29 Raids" Chicago Daily News Foreign Service syndicate member Boston Globe September 1 1945 published Weller's War pp.609-12 content, therein described as "Passed By Censors, but was never published."

Charlotte Ebener

Why is there no article on Charlotte Ebener or on the Women's National News Agency for which she wrote? --Orange Mike | Talk 19:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:George Weller/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The article on George Weller, specifically the section regarding his suppressed 1945 reportage from Nagasaki, Japan, seems distorted. The Nagasaki material briefly notes Weller's role, then abruptly shifts to a long and tendentious contradiction of Weller's (and Weller's son's very recent) claims. This and other features of the article make the article unbalanced and probably unfair. It's especially troubling that a comment of Weller's that seems to endorse the atomic bombing of Nagasaki is highlighted. That comment may or may not reflect Weller's actual opinion, but because of the article's lack of balance and proportion, it's certain that readers cannot trust what they read here.

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