Talk:Gość Niedzielny

Poland Low‑importance

	Poland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Poland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Poland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PolandWikipedia:WikiProject PolandTemplate:WikiProject PolandPoland articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Catholicism Low‑importance

Gość Niedzielny is within the scope of WikiProject Catholicism, an attempt to better organize and improve the quality of information in articles related to the Catholic Church. For more information, visit the project page.CatholicismWikipedia:WikiProject CatholicismTemplate:WikiProject CatholicismCatholicism articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Catholicism task list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : see Draft articles
Assess : see Category:Unassessed Catholicism articles; Category:Unknown-importance Catholicism articles
Cleanup : Blessed Virgin Mary (see the talk page)
Collaborate : Invitation template needed, see Category:WikiProject invitation templates
Copyedit : Cuthbert Tunstall
Expand : Angelus; Roman Catholicism in Kosovo; Bishop Adolph John Paschang; Cum sæpe accidere; Altar Society; American Board of Catholic Missions; Bernard Häring
NPOV : Americanism (heresy); Ensoulment
Photo : see Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of Catholicism
Stubs : see Category:Stub-Class Catholicism articles; Category:Catholic Church stubs
Update : Peer review; John Aloysius Maguire
Verify : Archdiocese of Glasgow; Archbishop of Westminster; Bishop; Saint Mungo; Sanctification; Westminster Cathedral
Other : Watch recent changes for Catholicism articles

Magazines Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Magazines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of magazines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MagazinesWikipedia:WikiProject MagazinesTemplate:WikiProject Magazinesmagazine articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
See WikiProject Magazines' writing guide for tips on how to improve this article.

Catholic?

Regarding the description of this media as Catholic, we have a small dispute ([1]). User:Propositum wrote on my talk page 'The same source says in the same paragraph that catholics are against the magazine. The latter pretends to be catholic, but from the NPOV is ultra-catholic.' I agree this newspaper does not speak for all Catholics in Poland, but I believe it can be described as Catholic media, because a Catholic fringe (if it indeed is what this represents) is still part of the greater Catholic community. If anybody can add a section about this newspaper biases, target demographics, etc. - go ahead, but as far as the lead is concerned, I believe the adjective Catholic is accurate. PS. Few other sources describing it as a Catholic media: Anna Cichopek (19 June 2014). Beyond Violence: Jewish Survivors in Poland and Slovakia, 1944–48. Cambridge University Press. pp. 131–. ISBN 978-1-107-03666-6., Adam Possamai (28 March 2012). Handbook of Hyper-real Religions. BRILL. pp. 361–. ISBN 90-04-21881-5., Ljiljana Šarić (2010). Contesting Europe's Eastern Rim: Cultural Identities in Public Discourse. Multilingual Matters. pp. 145–. ISBN 978-1-84769-324-2. (this source notes it is seen as a neutral media), Uladzislau Belavusau (8 October 2013). Freedom of Speech: Importing European and US Constitutional Models in Transitional Democracies. Routledge. pp. 158–. ISBN 978-1-135-07198-1. and finally, Bryce Lease (1 September 2016). After '89: Polish Theatre and the Political. Manchester University Press. pp. 148–. ISBN 978-1-5261-0104-4. (this one describes it as nationalist). One source for neutral, one for nationalist, all for Catholic. PPS. Personally I do think it is a conservative media, but that needs sources. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 21:27, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I found with no problem the mainstream source labelling "Gość Niedzielny" as conservative Catholic. I can confirm that it is the common notion among Polish Catholics, because the majority of them does not agree with the worldview held by this magazine. If people call it Catholic, this is beacuse of the simplicity and editors' suggestions. Anyway, I think we have achieved the consensus. Propositum (talk) 22:13, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Propositum: Agreed. Now, seeing as conservative Catholic is a disambig, should we pipe it to Christian right? The problem here is that I couldn't find a source labeling it as right-wing (and I checked Polish sources, too). And yes, I feel it is more to the right than left, but we cannot write an encyclopedia based on our feels... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: I have noticed too that conservative Christian and related pages need some clean-up. I will try to solve this problem if I have time. Of course, we should not follow feelings, but the reason (not only in encyclopedia), but we are talking rather about the common notion than mine or Yours. That notion is a fact on its own and it inevitably influences sources, which is nothing wrong as long as the former is common. This is part of wider discussion regarding Wikipiedia's core content policies and even epistemology in general. Propositum (talk) 05:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]