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July 2005[edit]

I don't think we need to reproduce the content from Ashkenazi here. A small section, and a reference when the article is finally published, is definitely enough. I remain rather concerned that searching for "google:Journal of Biosocial Science Gregory Cochran" yields this very page. Are we not in the process of creating this chap's fame, rather than describing it? JFW | T@lk 3 July 2005 21:14 (UTC)

The 2nd yield in that search is for the economist article, which verifies the study's acceptance for publication. The Wikipedia article only comes up first because of the large amount of inter-linking present on Wikipedia articles, which boosts it's ranking in google. It may also be ranked higher than the economist article because websurfers love Wikipedia ;) As far as is the study notable, acceptance for publication in Cambridge's Journal of Biosocial Science and coverage in the NY times and the Economist is fine. It's normal for it to be accepted for publication in the journal prior to publication in the journal, yes? Though the reviews published alongside it in the journal will be interesting. --Nectarflowed T 3 July 2005 23:07 (UTC)

Mmm. I wonder if the publisher can live with the fact that Cochran published the article himself on the internet. I happen to think that the paper has received a massive amount of attention due to self-promotion by Greg. JFW | T@lk 4 July 2005 06:56 (UTC)

Hm, maybe. The blogs didn't pick it up until it was covered in the economist, which agreed to cover it once it found a journal. The Gene Expression genetics blog that this article mentions Greg comments on sometimes covered it earlier when he was looking for a journal, but this kind of thing is right up their alley.--Nectarflowed T 4 July 2005 08:06 (UTC)

It was on Jerry Pournelle a long time ago. JFW | T@lk 4 July 2005 11:51 (UTC)

education[edit]

Does Greg have any degrees/training in genetics or anthropology? Nitpyck (talk) 16:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


Not that I can tell, he is unqualified to practice or teach anthropology. He is reintroducing scientific racism that attracts many who are not spectacular so they rely on someone to tell them thats ok because their race is superior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.36.156.10 (talk) 06:25, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Funny[edit]

I have discovered today the summary of his book. I have pesonnaly follow a very close path last year and produce an article about this phenomen through an adaptation of the Flynn effect. Here is the article, automatic translation can give you an idea about content but graphic is quite interesting to compare to the way of mind of Cochran. La problématique sociale de l’évolution intellectuelle de nos sociétés « occidentales »

Strangely, without any connection, I had the same feelings about Jews communities, maybe different about the mechanism, that's all.

Hugues CREPIN (french speaking wiki user) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.65.102.230 (talk) 19:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Writing on Military Topics[edit]

It is possibly worth a mention on the page that Cochran has authored magazine articles on military policy relating to Iraq, what to do about Iran in light of military history, Eisenhower as commander and WW2 [1] Mag articles. Overagainst (talk) 10:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

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physics?[edit]

What did he do as a physicist? 143.167.78.224 (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Adjunct Professor?[edit]

Is Cochran really an adjunct professor? He's not listed among the adjunct faculty. The school has only this which describes him as a "Research Associate." I suspect he's basically an independent scholar who was given some token position at the school so he could work more easily with professors there and use the libraries and whatnot. Then, because he's co-authoring studies with actual professors and because he's the age to be a professor rather than a research associate, somebody just called him a professor. Dingsuntil (talk) 01:10, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Scientific Racism[edit]

Cochran is bluntly described here as a racist: "a proponent of human biodiversity, a contemporary branch of scientific racism." One of the sources given for this accusation is the Southern Poverty Law Center, a highly partisan group that sometimes unfairly labels its political opponents as hate mongers (ex: Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz, etc). If you are going to make a serious charge of racism, you had better be able to back it up with a lot more evidence than this.

Note that the first two references do not mention Cochran. GC and the 10000 year explosion have received a good deal of coverage in RSs -much of it positive. calling him a proponent of scienfici racism in wikipedia's voice would need to be sourcing (better than the splc) that actually does that. NPalgan2 (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I’ve attempted to address this by stating that he is associated with the ‘human biodiversity’ milieu, and note that critics have described it as scientific racism; both these statements are much more easily supported, including with sources friendly to Cochran (in the Taki’s article, Steve Sailer even asserts that his HBD mailing list is how Cochran and his 10000-year leap coauthor/West Hunter collaborator Harpending met). 23.115.162.60 (talk) 05:24, 26 July 2018 (UTC)