Talk:HM Prison Maze

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Name[edit]

HM Maze Prison is a false construction, linguistically.

Long Kesh was renamed HMP Maze following the introduction of direct rule in 1972 (http://www.niprisonservice.gov.uk/maze.htm)

Maze Prison or The Maze are much commoner colloquial names (outside republican/nationalist circles) and should be the name given to the article, especially when accepted practice of giving the official name in the first line is continued. --garryq 17:28, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

The whole base was Long Kesh the prison was HMP The Maze — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.158.132 (talk) 05:47, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


Could someone elaborate on "Special Category"?

Origin of the name[edit]

What is the origin of the name "Maze"? A maze, an earlier placename, somebody so called?

Because it resembled a maze of barbed wire. First quickly built from huts, then added to, also quickly. Regarded as a prisoner of war camp more than a traditional prison.

Defined Special Category[edit]

I added some stuff about Special Category status. I wasn't sure if I should elaborate on the difference between internees and convicts, so I'm counting on people to realize the distinction between the two.

Convicts refer's to traditional criminals, ie those arrested for crimes against society, eg theft, vandalism, etc. Internees refer's political prisoners, those interned or incarcerated without trial. Guerilla fighters, or those suspected of so being, would fall into this category.

Common criminals[edit]

Were there any common criminals in HMP Maze, or was it solely for terrorists? GCarty 09:12, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The vast majority of the prison was for political prisoners, but for some reason, there were a small number of ordinary prisoners employed in the kitchens.

Burning of Long Kesh, 1974[edit]

What about the Burning of Long Kesh, the prisoner riot of 1974? There is no mention of the article, despite the controversial use of large amounts of CR gas on the prisoners. See also http://irelandsown.net/keshflames.html and http://republican-news.org/archive/2002/October31/31crg.html - it looks like a pretty important event. Anybody cares to write about it, please? --Shaddack 11:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

BBC News link here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/16/newsid_2531000/2531083.stm You must remember that Long Kesh is officially refered to as The Maze or HMP Maze, even though it was originally an RAF Base of the L.K. name.

Some other basic information here: http://freedom.is/closed.htm#se

If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll write about it within 2 weeks. I'm currently on Wikibreak, and I have lots of exams and coursework. Ian13ID:540053 17:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I am not doing too well on writing this, so I will provide what I have written, so someone can use it if they wish i writing it. Sorry. Ian13/talk 16:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
On October 15, 1974, around 800 prisoners set light to their compounds, destroying 21 compounds and injuring more than 130 prisoners. Troops were called to regain control of the prison after a night of rioting, and they used rubber bullets, and dropped CR gas.

Rename[edit]

To make it less confusing, this should be moved to Maze (prison).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  10:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The convention for naming prison articles seems to suggest that this should be moved to "HMP Maze."GiollaUidir 13:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Maze (HM Prison) is in the correct format, at least this seems to suggest it is. Stu ’Bout ye! 20:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, is there any reason for that nomenclature? "HMP x" or "HM Prison x" would seem to be more readable (IMAO). 68.39.174.238 00:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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Photos[edit]

Yahoo Maps has an amazinf shot of the prison - I take it thi scan't be used?Traditional unionist 23:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Dead links[edit]

I just removed a dead link. It was a photo page of H blocks. Anyone to replace it with something similar? thessaysno | talk 00:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Which county?[edit]

To clear this issue up - HMP Maze was/is in County Down - unlike Lisburn which mainly lies in County Antrim - the River Lagan being the boundary.Denzell393 (talk) 18:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Billy Wright's death[edit]

Since the old text had a 'citation needed' tag, I just changed the wording regarding death of Billy Wright, No source was provided for 3 shots or or that he was shot in the back, added a reference to a report in todays Guardian to support my edit.

Without a citation "Shot in the back" seems a bit biased to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.20.24.42 (talk) 13:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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