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Possible BLP issue

@ARP3789, Materialscientist, Johnpacklambert, ThurstonMitchell, 唐吉訶德的侍從, and Hillelfrei:

Hello recent editors of this article, Henry T. Yang, chancellor of the University of California Santa Barbara. Can I get some additional opinions on this sentence that User:Fbackman recently added? I keep removing it, but the original editor is adamant that it stay, and keeps reverting me.

Chancellor Yang's tenure saw the dismantling of reasonable student fees,^[1] increased racial tensions on campus^[2] and increased student violence against women.^[3]^[4]^[5]^[6] In November 2020, the university launched the Racial Justice Fellowship program, 26 years after his inauguration as Chancellor.^[7]

Diff. Personally, I think it has citation issues (none of the sources used mention Yang), BLP issues, OR issues (cherry picking negative events to highlight and paint a negative picture of Yang), and NPOV issues ("dismantling", "reasonable", tries to persuade rather than state facts). Although who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

The original author and I had a long discussion here, where I was subjected to some personal attacks. [1][2][3][4][5]. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The claims of "increased student violence towards women" I want to be sourced. Sometimes these numbers reflect changes of reporting more than anything else. Plus generally this mischaracterizes events. At the University of Utah, Ruth Watkins' term has seen a rise in murder of female students, but this is partly driven by 2 high profile murders, at least one perpetrated by a non student. The fee comment is a clear violation of NPOV. We need to write of the fee changes by reporting what happened without judgement. What percentage rise, and how long had it been since they changed? John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On further reflection the sources seem to imply there were allegations of rape at a fraternity near campus. That is not a campus wide problem like the writer tries to portray it as.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia should not be used to try and smear and malign people as the editor is trying to do here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple personal attacks, racist/sexist comments, and other violations by a now-blocked user. I think we're done with that tangent. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:53, 13 December 2020 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

There’s is clearly and attempt of Novem his display outright racism and white arbitration. His use “I personally think” and,” I want” are right wing fascist dog whistles fo overt whytism and have basis in reality. He is not the arbiter, Any accommodation of this racism and dangerous sexism should not be tolerated and indeed rooted out. We are in perilous times. Frederick G Backman 22:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

correction. *have NO basis in reality. Frederick G Backman 22:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

I further request that his account be shutdown. Frederick G Backman 22:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

novem got his feeling hurt and now wants retribution. Frederick G Backman 22:58, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

novels core argument is because yang did not comment is reason enough. I would argue that silence speaks volumes!! Frederick G Backman 23:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

He knows I’m Black. Frederick G Backman 23:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

As I argued on my thread I added two heavily referenced sentences ( I am adding more today after further research) where he insinuated that if this passes then the flood gates will,open to outright anarchy. He placed the burden of all the bad actors on me. I am to blame and have to carry the burden. Two sentences. This is a microcosm of what we as Black and Brown folk go through everyday. Having to overly justify our valid contribution to Wikipedia. Frederick G Backman 23:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

“Possible, likely”, he failed and now wants others to deal with his mess because he got his feelings hurt. Frederick G Backman 23:10, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

So he wanted me add more example of violence, rape and mayhem to please his standards. OK. Loud and clear. Frederick G Backman 23:12, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

I will not add anymore more sentences, there will only two and there will not be any more but two sentences, heavily annotated, because Black folk only get their two sentence quote. Ah laws massa, Is sorry massa, I s what boy Fred shud do to make massa luv me? Is won’t loot no that tooos sentences massa....oh massa thinks fo me massa...forgive Lo Dumbs Fred massa pleez is neva step outa line massa Frederick G Backman 23:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

Whyte, whyte identified allied gatekeepers are everywhere and the burden is on you not me. Those two sentences stand on their own merit. Frederick G Backman 23:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

novem thank you for advocating for more for violence against women. I’m from Santa Barbara, worked at the uni. Frederick G Backman 23:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

also take that remove your overt male identifier. Why do you feel the need to even put it there. It’s gross. Frederick G Backman 23:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

Revert...clue...you’re from India? Wow, talk abaout legacy of violence against women. Wow. Frederick G Backman 23:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

Hillel, Babi, would you please explain these Holy days to your colleagues and the resoluteness of the Maccabees so they understand my commitment. Frederick G Backman 00:31, 13 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

And how far I’m willing to take this. Those two sentences stand. Frederick G Backman 00:33, 13 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbackman (talk • contribs)

The user that added the contentious statement (Fbackman) was indefinitely blocked. This appears to be resolved. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page protected...

Given the edit-war in progress, I reverted to the last clean version pre-edit-war and have protected the page from editing for 48 hours to allow for discussion of the proposed changes here and the building of consensus. However, as the main participant in one side of the edit war, Fbackman, has been indefinitely blocked for...well, basically all of the above section...this may be moot, and if another admin believes the protection is now unnecessary please feel free to undo the page protection immediately. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:04, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2017/10/a-brief-history-of-uc-tuition

[2] ttps://dailynexus.com/2015-11-18/white-fragility-at-ucsb-a-response-to-the-demonization-of-greek-life/

[3] ttps://www.independent.com/2019/10/30/ucsb-frat-faces-rape-allegations/

[4] ttps://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2019/10/university-silent-regarding-multiple-sexual-assault-cases-on-fraternity-property

[5] ttps://www.edhat.com/news/investigation-into-date-rape-drugs-at-ucsb-fraternity

[6] ttps://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/university-of-california-uc-santa-barbara-student-woman-attack-gang-rape-campus-safety/2094499/

[7] ttps://diverseeducation.com/article/195484/

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