Talk:Hugh Gaine

A fact from Hugh Gaine appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that during the American Revolution, Hugh Gaine's printing shop was threatened by the Sons of Liberty because of his wavering loyalty to the American cause?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that during the American Revolution Hugh Gaine's printing shop was threatened by the Sons of Liberty because of his wavering loyalty to the American cause? — Source: Fellows, 2005, p. 45; Chopra, 2009, p. 274
- Reviewed:Template:Did you know nominations/Flat Top Mountain (West Virginia)
- Comment: A few minor edits were made by me in Nov. 2001. 5x expansion commenced on March 11, 2022. Statement and sources supporting hook can be found in the Printing career section, 2nd paragraph

5x expanded by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 01:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Expanded over fivefold within 7 days of nomination, long enough. Waiting on QPQ. Maybe it's because I haven't had my coffee yet, but I'm not seeing in the two cited sources where it says that Gaine and Rivington worked in the same press (indeed Chopra 2009 says they were bitter rivals). Fellow 2005 does say that the Sons of Liberty "hinted at his total destruction if they did not advocate his cause", so maybe we can correct the article text and hook to say he was threatened with attack? I don't know if that has the same punch though. Please correct me if I'm reading the sources wrong. DigitalIceAge (talk) 17:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DigitalIceAge: Yes, that's correct, Gaine and Rivington didn't actually work at the same press, but they did work as printers in New York during the same time period - so I removed working "with" Rivington. This is the passage, from Thomas, 1874, vol. 2, p. 110, that I had interpreted wrongly as to mean they were working together:

"During the war both Gaine and Rivington were taken notice of by a poet to whom the muses were auspicious. Several poetical essays, of which Gaine and Rivington were the heroes, appeared in the newspapers, and afforded no small degree of amusement to those who were acquainted with these noted typographers."

Gaine's loyalties did seem to waver, and were indeed perceived this way by the Son's of Liberty, esp because he printed both patriot and loyalist articles. I changed the (existing) hook accordingly. Also, I'll get a QPQ completed in the next day or so. Thanks for looking out. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DigitalIceAge: — QPQ has been completed. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the wait @Gwillhickers:. Revised hook reads nice, QPQ done, should be good to go! DigitalIceAge (talk) 04:29, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DigitalIceAge: - Thanks for the review. No rush, no worries. . I took the liberty to add the 'Good to Go' icon so the template gets flagged. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]