Talk:Hungary in World War II

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What a sentence, "ancestral enemies": "The thought of these ancestral enemies [Slovaks, Croats, Romanians] on Hungarian soil was seen as far worse than German control." With such attitudes it is not so difficult to understand what is going on in Hungary now, with extreme right Jobbik earning much of the votes, and nationalistic Orban in power, they simply cannot overcome their own ghosts.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Is there a reason this article isn't simply included within Hungary? Philippe Beaudette 02:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, it definitely shouldn't be part of the Hungary article, so I assume you're meaning the History of Hungary article. If you look, World War II national histories are actually quite common. As this topic is expanded, it would become incredibly large. Most countries break up their national histories into time periods... for example History of Poland (1939–1945). If all this was included alongside the entire history of poland, the article would be... a little long. Same goes for Hungary. So History of Hungary will eventually be properly edited into Wikipedia:Summary style. - TheMightyQuill 02:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Kassa was probably bombed by the German army, since Hitler wanted Hungary to declare war against the Soviets. At those times, the Soviets had no reason to attack the independent Hungary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attilahok (talkcontribs) 13:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Help needed[edit]

I have raised an issue about the history of the Kingdom of Hungary during WWII : you may read about this here. Any help would be very welcome. Thanks, Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 13:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed revisions re. Jews and Roma[edit]

I propose to make some revisions to this article. The main changes would be as follows.

1. “However from the start of German occupation in 1944, Jews and Romas were deported and over 450,000 of them were exterminated in concentration camps.”

I would change this to: “However from the start of German occupation in 1944, Jews and Romas were deported to the Auschwitz Birkenau Concentration and Extermination Camp. By the end of the war, the death toll was between 450,000 and 606,000 Hungarian Jews and an estimated 28,000 Hungarian Roma.”

I would cite Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, Bantam, 1986, p. 403; Randolph Braham, A Magyarországi Holokauszt Földrajzi Enciklopediája (The Geographic Encyclopedia of the Holocaust in Hungary), Park Publishing, 2006, Vol 1, p. 91; and David Crowe, “The Roma Holocaust,” in Barnard Schwartz and Frederick DeCoste, eds., The Holocaust's Ghost: Writings on Art, Politics, Law and Education, University of Alberta Press, 2000, pp. 178–210.

2. “A heroic Swedish diplomat, Raul Wallenberg, was able to smuggle some Jews out of Hungary with fake passports.”

I would change this to: “Swedish diplomat Raul Wallenberg saved thousands of Budapest Jews using Swedish protective passports.”

3. “Anne McCormick, a foreign correspondent for The New York Times, wrote in defense of Hungary as the last refuge of Jews in Europe, declaring that “as long as they exercised any authority in their own house, the Hungarians tried to protect the Jews.”

I would delete this as POV. Hungary’s treatment of the Jews as compared to Germany’s is dealt with elsewhere in the article in a more factual manner.Hirschjoshua (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


Who was king? ♆ CUSH ♆ 08:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Good question. In fact, there was no King of Hungary in that time, only a Regent, Miklós Horthy. Charles IV of Hungary was the last crowned King of Hungary, but he could not retake his throne. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 10:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
It is easy. Hungary was a kingdom, but the main representative was not a king but regent admiral Horthy. Of course, it does not mean that Hungary had some sea, it was a landlocked coutry (with some potential territorial demands toward Romania and Slovakia, but these coutries were not enemies, but tallies :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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