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I'm redoing Ibycus because it is little more than a cobbling together of random facts. Feel free to help out or share with me any useful references.--Derusa (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm

I might do some work on this. Little by little. I seem to have all the lyric poets to myself, Sappho excepted. My sources for this article:

David A. Campbell, Greek Lyric III, Loeb Classical Library (1991);
David A. Campbell, Greek Lyric Poetry, Bristol Classical Press (1982);
David A. Campbell , 'Monody', P.Easterling and B.Knox (ed.s), The Cambridge History of Classical Literature: Greek Literature, Cambridge University Press (1985);
Ewen Bowie, 'Lyric and Elegiac Poetry', J.Boardman, J.Griffin and O.Murray (ed.s), The Oxford History of the Classical World, Oxford University Press (1986);

It's all pretty old stuff but, consulting my 2002 OCD, I don't see there has been much change in the meagre state of knowledge lately. I'll see what else I can pick up online. The article is rarely visited, judging by the stats, which suits me fine since fewer visitors=fewer editors=fewer nincompoops=fewer traumas. Anyhow...McZeus (talk) 06:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

deleted source

I deleted this statement and its supporting source: Alexandrian scholars in the 3rd or 2nd century BC assembled his work into seven books or papyrus rolls, probably on the basis of meter.<...ref>Smyth, Herbert Weir, Greek Melic Poets Biblo and Tannen, 1963, p. 271.<ref. According to Cambell, we don't know the selection criteria of the seven books and I suspect "probably on the basis of meter" is a marginal viewpoint. I've posted the source here so it can be reinstated when and if there is more support for it. McZeus (talk) 00:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Finished

I've pretty well finished my edit now. I'll pop back now and then like a magpie with grubs for his young when and if I find some useful material. Ibycus might have been a moral reprobate, but so was Lord Byron, who wasn't half the poet that Ibycus was, even though in mere quantity of verses he was ten thousand thousand times bigger. Poetry is poetry, morality is morality, and adults are complex enough to keep them in separate drawers, same as they can enjoy watching murders on tv while remaining law abiding citizens. It must be a nerve-wracking experience watching murders on a prison tv, in the company of convicted murderers, and similarly it's not easy editing an article about a pederast poet when there are pederasts in the editorial ranks. However, WP seems to be getting control of that problem. McZeus (talk) 03:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]