Talk:Ida Haendel

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Publicity-agent Puffery

She has the reputation of being as accomplished and brilliant a violinist as Yehudi Menuhin and Isaac Stern; but has said that had she been more photogenic, she would have been as famous. She is arguably the greatest female violinist who has ever lived, with a recording repertoire unmatched by any other woman playing the violin.

This is false, ridiculous, and sounds like a parody. 208.87.248.162 (talk) 23:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also reluctant to say she is "the greatest female violinist", but it is also puzzling(?) that who is the greatest female violinist. Sophie-Anne Mutter is too specialized. Sarah Chang and Hilary Hahn do very well but too young. Johanna Maztzy died too early, It is ridiculous to say one is the greatest among others, but in some sense Ida was one of the greatests. In my opinion, this is not false. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.212.1.234 (talk) 00:34, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ida Haendel is a fine violinist, but the comments quoted above are ridiculous and certainly do not constitute information worthy of an encyclopedia. It's fan blubber.

208.87.248.162 (talk) 18:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just a really good resource

Ida Haendel maintains her own YouTube channel. On that channel, she posted a documentary that was made on her. Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fARPbGGbtE

If anyone feels like updating the article, it would be a good source to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.167.213.85 (talk) 21:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit the References?

On opening up "References" for editing, I saw only:

(header References)

But I guess the inline citations make up the body. Marlindale (talk) 16:11, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

Nothing more. I have a concern about one of the references listed, from ClassicalSource, which is linked to. It found it to be very commercial, with advertising irrelevant to music. Marlindale (talk) 00:43, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I rmeoved the almost empty infobox in accordance with WP:MOS: “The most important group to consider are the casual readers of Wikipedia, who will never do any significant editing. Infobox templates that contain many blank fields, question marks and unknowns present an unprofessional appearance, diminishing Wikipedia’s reputation as a high-quality encyclopedia.” Quis separabit? 17:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bio

I would like to know when Ida Haendel emigrated from Poland, and where she went. Since she is said to be British, I guess she first went to the UK, but I guess she later moved to the US, since she apparently lived (still lives?) in Miami. Rbakels (talk) 11:49, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A page from Encyclopedia.com, an offshoot of the Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music, says she 'Relocated with her family to England after the outbreak of World War II'. Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939 and the invasion had succeeded within a few weeks. In 1937 Haendel had made her London debut in a Proms concert. She had been studying with Carl Flesch in London from 1935. Could her family already have been with her? In 1940 she became a naturalized British citizen. She wrote an autobiography, Woman with Violin, which could be a good source if one could find it.Marlindale (talk) 21:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's complicated. Born in Poland in 1928, became a British citizen in 1940 at age 12, as usual for foreign born children, became a Canadian citizen in 1952, lived in Montreal from 1952 to 1989, lived in Miami from 1990 to 2020. She was a British/Canadian citizen and an American resident. According to her surviving family members.Tennisedu (talk) 23:37, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of birth

My father tells me that she played at his school in 1939, when he was 11. He remembers her as a teenager, not as a child younger than him. This suggests to me that the 1923 birth date is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.26.201 (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death

BR-Klassik: 30 June; Guardian: 1 July. The date of death is not confirmed. Any comments? Grimes2 (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guardian obituary by Robert White published on 1st July, gives 1 July 2020. The obituary in BR-Klassik does state 30 June but was published on 1 July, so perhaps was in error. I will send the source a query. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NZZ, Der Spiegel etc. state "Nacht zum Dienstag", this would mean 29/30 June, so 1 July is obviously wrong. Grimes2 (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Post: 1 July. Grimes2 (talk) 05:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nephew Richard Grunberg wrote 1 July on Facebook: "It is with heavy heart that I let my Facebook friends and family know that my beloved aunt, the legendary and world renown violinist Ida Haendel, passed away peacefully last night at her home in Miami." My interpretation is, that the date of death was 30 June or 1 July and can not exactly be determined. It's the same case as Mariss Jansons (30 November / 1 December 2019). Grimes2 (talk) 06:02, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Family life?

Any marriages, husbands, children? Valetude (talk) 15:51, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From Washington Post obituary: "She never married — “it was all about the music,” her nephew said — and has no immediate surviving family." Grimes2 (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]