Talk:Ignacy Korwin-Milewski
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[edit]I think gallery should be removed, per WP:GALLERY. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: WP:GALLERY allows some exceptions, and I think the gallery in this article is valuable - Korwin-Milewski's gallery of self-portraits is a unique collection and well worth presenting.Marcelus (talk) 10:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that Ignacy Korwin-Milewski amassed a collection of over 200 paintings by Polish artists, at the time one of the largest private collections of contemporary Polish art? Source: Korwin-Milewski has been collecting art all his life. Especially in 1880–1895 when he collected over 200 works. According to Milewski, Polish national characteristics came to the surface in certain historical periods, and this is what happened in relation to Polish painting of the late 19th century(...) Art historian Andrzej Ryszkiewicz described his collection as "one of the most consciously collected, most valuable and most beautiful of the Polish paintings collections"; Ryszkiewicz 1976, p. 210.
- ALT1: ... that Ignacy Korwin-Milewski commissioned prominent Polish painters to make self-portraits in order to create a gallery modelled on the Uffizi? Source: Korwin-Milewski commissioned a set of about 20 self-portraits from various Polish artists, which were also included in the collection. In creating his collection of self-portraits, Milewski modelled it on a similar one held at the Uffizi in Florence; National Museum in Warsaw, in Polish
Created by Marcelus (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC).
Just a few small points that I wanted to address before moving forward with this article. Excellent research, by the way, this was interesting to read. So just a few points:
- I'm partial to the first hook, but I think that in order to avoid assumptions (that 'collections of its kind' is referring to Polish paintings), it can be reworded to: ...amassed a collection of over 200 paintings by Polish artists, at the time one of the largest private collections of Polish art?
- The claim that it was the largest private collection of its kind is missing from the article itself. Additionally, for such a bold claim, do you have an online source for it? Or at the very least, could you provide a brief snippet of the relevant part of Ryszkewicz's work for me to read? I can, at the very least, Google Translate it.
- Within the article itself, there are two sections that I feel need citations but are missing. Specifically, Korwin-Milewski's list of collections (unclear if this is citation 7), and the sentences relating to Gutnajer and the German occupation, including the claim that it is unclear what the fate of Gutnajer's collection.
- Otherwise, everything else seems to check out. No copyvios, no image suggested although the subject's portrait is public domain if you wish to use it. I believe this is your first DYK so no QPQ required, right?
- Thanks again for the good read!--haha169 (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry that I respond so late haha169. Ad 1: I think your proposition is better. I considered a similar wording at the beginning but it seemed too long, but now I think precision is more important. Ad 2: I don't claim it was the largest, but one of the largest collections of the contemporary Polish art, Ryszkiewicz says it was "one of the most consciously collected, most valuable and most beautiful of the Polish paintings collections". I will add that to the article. Ad 3: Yes that's my first DYK. I think that IKM portrait can be used. I will add requiered citations Marcelus (talk) 07:41, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good! Thanks for adding the new sources. The offline source for 200 pieces in the DYK hook will be accepted on good faith. Thanks for your work with this! --haha169 (talk) 03:05, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: hi there! Could the hook statement in the article be cited at the end of the sentence before promotion? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: yes of course, whatever is better. I don't have much experience with DYK Marcelus (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: sounds good! Make you you write your comments above the line; and could you please cite the sentence? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:22, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I do not quite understand what I should do now?Marcelus (talk) 07:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: Well, when a hook lands on DYK, the corresponding fact in the article needs to be cited right at the end of the sentence. The hook about him having 200 works isn't cited at the end of the sentence; a citation'll need to be placed there. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: ok, done Marcelus (talk) 08:25, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: Well, when a hook lands on DYK, the corresponding fact in the article needs to be cited right at the end of the sentence. The hook about him having 200 works isn't cited at the end of the sentence; a citation'll need to be placed there. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I do not quite understand what I should do now?Marcelus (talk) 07:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: sounds good! Make you you write your comments above the line; and could you please cite the sentence? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:22, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: yes of course, whatever is better. I don't have much experience with DYK Marcelus (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Marcelus: hi there! Could the hook statement in the article be cited at the end of the sentence before promotion? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:40, 4 May 2022 (UTC)